I saw Barbenheimer the weekend it came out. Oppie is overrated as shit. I liked it but Barbie was 3x better. It’s apparent in the way women are written and the fact that Greta, Margot and Barbie are being snubbed for Nolan is a disgrace.
Oppie isn’t even his best work and it sure as shit doesn’t deserve a dozen fucking Oscar noms.
Whatever criticisms you have of Barbie being white/pop feminism are absolutely tossed aside when fucking OPPENHEIMER is the one winning shit. Cmon.
They’re giving noms to Poor Things instead of it as the “feminist” film cuz they’re cowards scared of women succeeding behind the camera in addition to in front of it and in the box office, and they’re horny teens horned up by Emma Stone and enraged Margot didn’t do that.
Edit- And before you come at me, I saw Oppie on proper film. Don’t tell me I didn’t get it or didn’t have a good experience or whatever. I liked it. But Barbie was better.
Except people, like Othello, did walk away with the second interpretation. And i dont think you did understand that the men who take advantage of her are antagonists. Doesnt the film punish them for what they did? Othello has informed me that the film is pretty clear this is bad.
I think you are overly concerned with what horny men with no media literacy are going to think of the film.
The movie doesn’t explicitly punish a lot of the guys actually. I saw the point of the brothel scenes as the main character coming to terms with her position in life and taking charge of her own path after separating from mark ruffalo (I forgot the characters name). The thing about the Johns though is that it was clear that their “punishment” if you could call it that is the only way they could be vulnerable is with a prostitute.
The lawyer is repeatedly punished and the military husband gets shot and turned into a goat, but the rest of the men either got to carry on with their lives with no punishment (her controlling father figure, all the johns that visit the brothel) or are actually rewarded for it (the young surgeon who Gets the Girl despite that he wanted to marry her when he knew she was a mental infant).
Again, my criticism of the movie isn't this theme, it's the glamorous portrayal of the thing the movie is supposedly criticizing. If you're ironically portraying a girl being taken advantage of as sexy, then it's still portraying a girl being taken advantage of as sexy. I really don't think the man who directed it was thinking about how he was skewering men's control over women when he was choosing the perfect angle to film Emma Stone fucking cowgirl style
The johns explicitly didn’t do anything wrong. They were all just embarrassing guys whose punishment was not being able to be vulnerable to anyone other than a stranger. At least that’s how I read it.
imo the guy having exhibitionist sex in front of his kids is wrong. The other johns are probably alright, although it is very skeevy when the madame is explaining how some clients enjoy the fact that the women don't want to fuck them
I took that more as people from the 1800s were weird about sex than anything. Obviously it’s still going to strike a nerve because of the context though.