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    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      To add a bonus hot take to this: I think western liberals (and some socialists) being all yaaaas kween about muslim women wearing hijabs is cringe as fuck. Like yeah I get it's not a straight forward issue especially when muslim women wear it in western countries where it's frowned by reactionaries upon but don't pretend you wouldn't call that shit internalized misogyny in an alternate universe where the West is muslim. That's not to say white people should be tut-tutting muslim women about it but the other extreme is also pretty cringe and I feel we're way closer to that.

    • raven [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      So it’s really important to them but they also are kinda “whatever” about it?

      That's kind of just how people work isn't it?
      It gives them some comfort but at the same time the details are whatever. Christians for example could twist themselves up in knots trying to reconcile this and that in the bible, but they usually excuse them with some thought terminating cliche, even to themselves.
      Caring about this religion or that is a bit of an idealist notion anyway, so I think it's more like we don't think there is much to be gained from that analysis. Religion, like everything else, comes from and is molded by material conditions so looking there is usually more interesting.