This shit just infuriates me. Just pure debate-bro idealism. You don't need to fucking go to the first principles and ground your axioms for every fucking issue. Sometimes, you can just agree that racism = bad. Like, no, fuck off, no one has to explain to you why racism is bad. Fuck off. Why do you think racism is bad?

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I watched that stupid "debate." the whole idea was the noncomplete guy was in the wrong because he could not give a reason for why genocide is bad. Why do you need some kind of highly structured and curated logical framework for why genocide is bad

    Why do you need to appeal to some kind of higher level abstract concept to explain anything

    Genocide is bad. It makes me sad and angry. That's it. Luna Oi and the Noncomplete guy have more patience than I'll ever have and they only talked to him like 5 mintues

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      NonCompete says that hurting and killing people is bad, Vaush immediately replies "was it bad when we hurt and killed the Nazis?" If Vaush actually applied this framework to the Nazis, he would conclude that they weren't so bad because all they did was hurt and kill people.

    • I_Have_IBS [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      "mORaLiTy dOeSnT exiSt OnLy pOwEr"

      - said by a debatebro who is constantly trying to stop himself from heiling like a neckbeard dr. strangelove

    • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      No, don't you understand how irrational you're being by opposing genocide based on emotion? You can't just have a set of mutually understood values! :pit:

      Seriously though, this is why these fucks can't understand why we're against Israel and other actively genocidal powers cough:amerikkka:cough

      As long as they're able to feign impartiality, they will ignore and in turn, enable, genocide and fascism in general. I just wish they weren't doing a Buttons and Mindy sketch the entire time.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Oh yeah I remember that. I remember one comment that was like "materialism is just the fuel in the tank, you need an ethical framework as the engine"

        The entire time I'm just :jesse-wtf:

        These people have the weirdest concerns and concept of how the world operates

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Materialism is a good way to predict that your slaves will eventually put a bullet in your head though.