The feds? Liberals trying to cause dissent? Cognitive dissonance of being left while in the west?

  • mao_zedonk [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Yeah I think this is the best read of what's happening. A bunch of libs and fake anarchists radlibs who thought "left" means "good guys", and are now prickly because it's being asserted in their spaces that they aren't left because they either aren't anti-capitalist (liberals) or that they aren't anti-imperialist (those online pro-state department "anarchists"). I feel like in another day these interventionist anarchists would have been trots, they kind of serve the same political function as certain historical trots that gave trots a bad name.

    Full uncrit support for my actual anarchists and trots comrades btw, you guys are cool. Anarchists are sexier and cooler than me, trots read more theory more closely than me.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Some of us himbo anarchists even read a shitload of theory. I'll fight in whatever the next Red Army is but aside from that I just want to grill, I don't want to take part in administrative shit, maybe I'd be a teacher or something afterward.

      • Ithorian [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Same, I'll fight for the revolution but as soon as the violence is over I'm out. I want to set up a community farm, spend the rest of my life playing in the dirt.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      3 years ago

      How does one be a genuine anarchist? Or rather, how does one avoid the ideological traps which lead to fake anarchism?

      • mao_zedonk [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        :jeff-foxworthy:

        If your conception of states not friendly to US empire (including but not limited to AES) seems to mysteriously align perfectly with those of the US State Department, you might be a dronie.

        If the only leftist movements you have ever supported are the Zapatistas, the YPG or pre-Franco Spain, you might be a dronie.

        If you unironically use the terms "tankie" and "red fash" to cleanse your spaces of the wrong kind of leftists, you might be a dronie.

        If your ultimate actions (independent of your precious beliefs) seem to replicate exactly what you'd imagine a fed would do when tasked with trying to destabilize unification among the left, you might be a dronie.

      • geikei [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Dont take pontius pilate -"all lives matter" like stances regarding states no matter the circumstances while existing in a world of dozens smaller states dominated and terrorised by the US empire, especially hamstringing the majority of anti-imperialist efforts. Yeah imperialism is gonna be ennacted and facilitated through and against nation states, good luck with "all states bad ,i support no one" approach

        Dont do unironic horseshoe theory of "MLs arent left and are right wingers" or even worse "fascists"

        Dont base your current perception of who is or isnt your ally around a victim complexe of "X ideology looks to kill me and will snd me to teh Gulag cause stuff that happened 100 years ago in completely different circustances"

        Dont belite the experience ,achievements and agency of hundreds of millions of people in modern history that believed and followed "authoritarian" ideologies and make up lies of "the MLs brainwashed and took advantage of them and their struggle to control them "

        Dont be a chomsky anarchist with all the weird takes that entails

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          3 years ago

          I think I can avoid those, only the first one is a trap I've ever fallen for.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          3 years ago

          Motherfuckers didn't listen when Arthur Fleck explicitly said the The Joker has no political motivation and that he was only in it for revenge.