From https://www.reveddit.com/v/WorkReform/comments/sedd6u/riop3l_heading_out/?ps_after=1643330632%2C1643331274%2C1643332020%2C1643332779%2C1643333692%2C1643334605%2C1643336047%2C1643337238%2C1643338466%2C1643340149%2C1643341553%2C1643343971

This looks very suspicious to me. Thoughts?

  • mr_world [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Social media automated COINTELPRO. You don't even need an active op. A media company doesn't want one of their biggest groups to be out of their control. The media company completely owns the site and has every tool at their disposal to break it up or replace the moderation team. The CIA doesn't have to lift a finger. It's designed to self-destruct.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The system is resilient cuz everybody wants to be a prick

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      A media company doesn’t want one of their biggest groups to be out of their control.

      Reddit's created a market for these little social media brush fires. We've seen it since /r/thefappening. You create a community that some wealthy financial interest finds problematic and you get paid to put the fire out. Then another fire breaks out and... oh, its getting seriously out of control. Someone should pay us to put that one out, too. And then another. And another.

      The Reddit Admins are Crassus's firefighter brigade. Getting paid to manage disasters that their boss's sloppy building helped create. They don't care what kind of fire they start, so long as they can monetize selling out the subreddit to some special interest invested in shaping the discourse. It can be /r/The_Donald or /r/antiwork, and its all the same.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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    3 years ago

    :cia: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorkersStrikeBack/comments/sejejy/bnsf_unions_cant_strike_over_attendance_policy/

    This person came in to debate bro a very unambiguous post. Literally a few minutes after I posted this.

    • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      They have that name_name_number format that was noticed in this thread where I was banned for posting about RFA being a CIA front: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rzz3i1/uyghur_woman_sentenced_for_14_years_for_teaching/hs04kae/ Very interesting.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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        3 years ago

        Nice that just means my instincts were right and that US intel nerds don't know I can just open an incognito window if they block me lmao.

        Should report him for debate bro shit.

  • Gosplan14 [any]
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    3 years ago

    Even if the whole mess was not initiated by the feds, it's certainly doing their job

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      with the caveat that i found this through a terf source, the convincing evidence for me was this mention on Center for a Stateless Society's* About page of a "Doreen de Cleyre" who was removed as an editor for being a rapist.

      *C4SS are "left market anarchists." although they're ideologically incompatible with most communists, they're not reactionaries

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah I have no idea if the Facebook screenshot is real or not.

      That being said, this person (the same person that went on Fox) literally posted to antiwork about being fired for sleeping on the job while watching dogs, which isn't a big deal. What is a big deal is that they admitted to animal abuse by punishing dogs by restricting their access to water. That's straight up cruel, like wtf

      How is this even real anymore

  • trill_miller [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Allow me to put my foil hat on: notice how mainstream finance news sites like bloomberg and business insider all ran stories about the r/antiwork "implosion" and all pointed everyone to workreform as the alternative...

    • pooh [she/her, love/loves]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Yeah, that was my take as well. The thread I linked to is about reddit admins pushing out the person who started /r/workreform, which would mean the strategy isn’t to directly take over /r/antiwork but instead delegitimize it and funnel users into a subreddit they can directly control.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      I mean... I guess that's something to notice abstractly. But /r/antiwork didn't become popular because of how many people heard about it on Bloomberg. They were pushing a popular message and it caught on.

      The people who were incited by the sub have nowhere to congregate for memes and shit. But the board did its job. The sentiment has been instilled. And the way the website pulled the rug on the base only further inflames the sense that business interests have way too much power and these social media sites are hopelessly corrupt.

      People are still looking for an outlet for their frustration. Reddit isn't going to be it. But the frustration persists and festers, none-the-less. I don't know what will eventually spark a bigger and more popular movement. But this generational time-bomb isn't being diffused by a knock-off sub run by investment bankers.

  • Vitnonourelow [any]
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    3 years ago

    I've not really been following this drama so I might have a bad understanding of it but naturally i'll comment on it anyways

    isn't this a good thing overall? these kinds of attempts at redress should be shot down or crushed, ideally in a humiliating way, people need to learn what works and what doesn't.

    the people involved obviously don't fully understand that it's a class war, because in a war different people have different roles - if you're going to engage with the enemy's mouthpiece you need someone who's capable of doing that, or else don't try.

    I did find the interview interesting because to me a dogwalker is a modern day page or jack, and this was like an aristo gently (because they don't want to bully their servents too much or be percieved to be doing that) telling them to get back in their lane.

  • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Literally what i was saying for days. Only people who never ever posted on antiwork called for the person creating the sub to be removed. It's a very obvious coup attempt.

  • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Idk what else to say, except that its kind of reassuring that you can say things like this now and not get downvoted and shouted down as a conspiracy theorist. A lot of people seem to agree that somethings fishy about this.