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  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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    3 years ago

    And yeah, agmatine messes with your BP levels. I've tried taking a gram before, just didn't agree with my body for whatever reason. I take 300mg in the morning with some other stacks for mental benefits I take to help counter what the phenibut has done to my memory and stuff, but that's about it.

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      tia spooked me out, esp reading reports after ordering a tub (never opened it, it's in my "break glass if sucidal depression"). i'm guessing it was a fun combination of intense opioid withdrawls and weird brainzappy SSRI shit rolled into one? and you know i thought phenibut was good for clearing out brain fog but i think with my daily kratom i've noticed in the last year it's actually fucking up my memory

      • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        I didn't get the brain zaps, but it was about a month of insomnia and anxiety on top of opiate WDs. So, yeah, totally fucking great. Luckily I was only on the stuff for 6-8 months, but my usage got so intense I'd need to wake up ever 3 hours at night to shovel tia down my throat. At least with Phenibut I can sleep through most of the night.

        • Des [she/her, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          ugggh. the ultra-short duration was definitely a turn off. i've always hated stuff with short half-life. i got hooked on loperamide (yes, it's possible!) to fight heroin/morphine w/ds because it has a 24 hr duration... it sucked as an opioid but long half life make such easier tapers!

          • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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            3 years ago

            I had half a mind to try an immodium high, but never took enough. Although I do take like 6 at a time some days since the phenibut use has wrecked my gut.

            • Des [she/her, they/them]
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              3 years ago

              it doesn't seem to cross bbb for everyone. i took 48 tablets first time when in w/d and it killed the w/d and gave a buzz. feels like a sleepier methadone buzz, with a touch of morphine. problem is it's a pretty strong calcium ion channel blocker too so it can slow your heart rate down dangerously.

                • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  yeah. ironically the ca+ blocking and the strong opioid effect combined makes a great pain reducer lol.

                  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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                    3 years ago

                    Yeah, I heard that immodium actually is close to morphine molecularly, just doesnt cross the BBB so you get the opiate constipation effect without the high.

                    Anyways, if you ever wanna talk drugs, inbox is always open! I'm starting my phenibut taper proper over the weekend, scale is coming in the mail, so I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about soon.