I'm reading Hobsbawm and these guys randomly appear all the time but he never bothers to explain who they are and what they want

    • toledosequel [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      This is actually true for a lot of secret societies emerging between th 18th-19th but the Masons have been around since the 16th century so I'm wondering what's going on there. Could just be a social club as others have pointed itt but I'm inclined to thinking theres more.

      Edit: I also don't like calling them "social clubs" because it's an innocuous way to frame their function as political networks and organizing bodies (ex: Mason Lodges and Operation Gladio as Bunhead mentioned, or Italian Carbonari in the 19th century)

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, it is a social club just for the worst people on earth. If they didn't have the cosplay club they would just do it at little st james island or davos