No, you can not have little a healthcare with your imperialism.

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    • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      Johnson
      Jackson
      Bush jr.
      Truman
      Reagan
      ... Maybe Trump here? Feels like Bush sr. should be up here somewhere too.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        8 months ago

        You know how bad US presidents are when someone can make a reasonable list of the 5 worst but Nixon and a bunch of slaveowners didnt make the cut

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        Every slaveowner beats him out so I doubt he even makes the top 10.

        • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          I mean, the argument could be made that some future Presidents didn't own slaves, but created the conditions to make a lot more slaveowners prosper elsewhere. Fuck, I'm gonna stop thinking on this one.

          • barrbaric [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            There's also definitely an argument that Trump would own slaves if it were still legal (Biden falls under this category too).

            • cosecantphi [he/him]
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              8 months ago

              These guys almost certainly have investments in private prisons, I have no doubt about that. While it's not quite the same as outright owning a person, they own shares in companies that preside over and profit from ongoing slavery to this day. Our modern financial system has done a bang up job of obfuscating slavery by making it too abstract for most people to notice, but today's policing and prison institutions are direct descendants of yesterday's escaped slave patrols and plantations.

      • nightshade [they/them]
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        8 months ago

        I think Jefferson is an underrated contender here. The Louisiana Purchase set the stage for a lot of the subsequent acts of expansion/colonization/genocide. Maybe it's a naive view of history; some degree of expansion is probably inevitable, but it's possible that American expansion could have been slowed/reduced if they had more resistance from other European powers near the start (i.e. if they had to fight France to expand westward instead of getting carte blanche from them). There was not-insignificant opposition to the purchase and Jefferson had a role in pushing in favor of it, so perhaps you could argue that Jefferson has a significant responsibility in driving American colonialism and making it so powerful today. I think you could make an argument that he had a particularly harmful role in how he shaped early US history based on that (and of course due to the slave-owning and protecting slavery that most other early presidents did as well).

  • RustyVenture [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    I got this today as well. Didn't know I was still getting Bernie emails. The subject was eyeroll-inducing, but I had to stop at the bit about Trump being the worst president in history. Left a pretty vicious message when unsubscribing and ended it with a cute little john-brown quote for good measure.

    My god what a disappointment. To think I lost sleep after Super Tuesday in 2020 over this fool sadness-abysmal

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      My god what a disappointment. To think I lost sleep after Super Tuesday in 2020 over this fool

      Same. Fortunately it brought us back to back-to-me

    • cosecantphi [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      To think I lost sleep after Super Tuesday in 2020 over this fool

      God, I was such a fucking wreck. Electoralism had never hurt my mental health as badly as that did, and I'll make damn sure it never will again.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    8 months ago

    I understand that there is a lot going on in this world today

    God damn. Love for my Senate Grandpa to talk to me like a fucking baby.

    Anyone else miss when he'd talk about doing Universal Medicare or ending the housing crisis, rather than having some ChatGPT ass intern whine about how they're afraid Republicans might win again?

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    Hard to agree with the statement Trump is the worst president in American history... One dropped 2 nuclear bombs, another genocided korea, turned Laos into the world's largest minefield, Vietnam... and Bush killed a million Iraqis.

  • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Bernie Sanders might as well have an israel, palestine and ukraine flag in his handle

  • jackalope@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Idk. Kinda think focusing on m4a is the right idea. The fact that most of the "Left" has given up on fighting for it is a shame.