• Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    There's historical precedent for all of those happening before the creation of fascism.

    Are you going to tell me that Louis the sun king (can't be bothered to look up which number) was a fascist because the prison system under his rule used prisoners as free penal labor?

    That the free newspapers under that whiny walrus mustached Prussian dipshit Bismark didn't push state propaganda handed to then?

    Go name a handful of countries that hasn't used the soldiery as labor in their nation, its a common occurrence through history. Shit even the Rus.Fed used their military as cops sometimes.

    I'm not knowledgeable about history of capitalist fuckery during pandemics since that's not my usual field of study therefore I can not say either way, but I'm going to be a debatebro and say if

    airline CEOs openly influencing public health bodies to lower COVID quarantine times for purely business reasons

    is a quantifiable mark of a fascist state, then by your logic actual fascist states that existed fail to meet that standard.

    I'll also apply that as well to the Steven Donzegar case, since as far as I'm aware that precedent wasn't made in nazi Germany or fascist italy.

    The point I'm making is that unless you're planning to make a historical blanket statement that everything is fascism, then you should probably spend some time analyzing the differences between fascist states and imperialist states. Portugal and Spain would be excellent studies since they lasted years longer than their more infamous counterparts.

    • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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      3 years ago

      Ultimately, I'd argue that "fascism" is a unique historical moment, but the US absolutely meets a lot of the criteria.