I have to wonder if, despite Great Man theory being garbage, it wasn't just thanks to Roddenberry. A lot of the 90s Trek made after his death (later seasons of TNG, DS9) were better than anything he was directly involved with, but still... he set the tone and the basic parameters for the 24th-century series with early TNG, and I don't think the producers went against that until the later movies at the earliest. Even DS9, the "darker" Trek, was still very clearly about people from a utopian society trying to hold on to their values in a more troubled galaxy.
Fun take: DS9 was made in spite of Rodenberry’s original vision for Star Trek. Roddenberry planted the seeds and his death actually allowed the workers to build from the core that had been established.
Attempts to “stay true” to Roddenberry resulted in Rick Berman fucking around and finding out on repeat with Voyager. Berman obsessed over the letter and not the spirit of Roddenberry and managed to almost kill Star Trek altogether.
my guess is the writers were still in a cold war mindset, but as science and reason oriented people (cuz they write for a utopian sci-fi show), they believed technology would advance us past the cap/com dichotomy we still find ourselves in
Lol no. Roddenberry told them too when he was high off his own farts and prescription lain killers and they continued to be forced to comply from the top down for better or worse and to different extents, like DS9 had less suit oversight cause they were micromanaging Voyager.
I am fine with voyager being the sacrificial dogshit it is because it distracted Rick Berman enough he shut the fuck up and let Ira Behr and the rest of that team make good art.
I am not fine, however, with the amount of abuse everyone involved with Voyager took from Berman. That guy is a fucking monster.
Liberalism is the air we breath sadly. I find it easy, if correct, to just blame the writers for being libs.
It's more interesting to wonder why TNG could be made in the 90s and isn't being made today, at least to me.
I have to wonder if, despite Great Man theory being garbage, it wasn't just thanks to Roddenberry. A lot of the 90s Trek made after his death (later seasons of TNG, DS9) were better than anything he was directly involved with, but still... he set the tone and the basic parameters for the 24th-century series with early TNG, and I don't think the producers went against that until the later movies at the earliest. Even DS9, the "darker" Trek, was still very clearly about people from a utopian society trying to hold on to their values in a more troubled galaxy.
Fun take: DS9 was made in spite of Rodenberry’s original vision for Star Trek. Roddenberry planted the seeds and his death actually allowed the workers to build from the core that had been established.
Attempts to “stay true” to Roddenberry resulted in Rick Berman fucking around and finding out on repeat with Voyager. Berman obsessed over the letter and not the spirit of Roddenberry and managed to almost kill Star Trek altogether.
my guess is the writers were still in a cold war mindset, but as science and reason oriented people (cuz they write for a utopian sci-fi show), they believed technology would advance us past the cap/com dichotomy we still find ourselves in
Lol no. Roddenberry told them too when he was high off his own farts and prescription lain killers and they continued to be forced to comply from the top down for better or worse and to different extents, like DS9 had less suit oversight cause they were micromanaging Voyager.
I am fine with voyager being the sacrificial dogshit it is because it distracted Rick Berman enough he shut the fuck up and let Ira Behr and the rest of that team make good art.
I am not fine, however, with the amount of abuse everyone involved with Voyager took from Berman. That guy is a fucking monster.