Yesterday I was banned from Lemmy-world due arguing with Liberals and with religious intolerants (atheistic religious intolerants) there. I am very shocked on how much radlib and new atheist they are. They literally can't take any left-wing take and or any religious take without mass harassing you and mass brigading you until they just ban you.

Ngl, Lemmy-world is basically a Liberal 4chan, and that is wacky how they think that all leftists are pro-Trump and pro-Conservative and how much they can't take anyone being against US/EU/NATO on that place, I've seen straight up Zionists, straight up Ukrofascists, straight up New Atheists (Atheist Fundamentalists) and so on on that place. And you can't respond them without you getting banned...

Ngl, I can even say that lemmy-world is a proof of how much the Fediverse can go completely wrong... And now I got a negative view on Lemmy and on the Fediverse after the awful experience I had on Lemmy-world. It (Lemmy-world) is far worse than Reddit itself, because people can mass harass you and mass brigade you and if you say anything you're banned. And they will mass downvote you if you post anything pro-left-wing and or anything pro-religion...

      • davel [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        It’s pretty funny when they’re so confident they own the place: https://lemmy.ml/comment/7954751

      • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        I agree. This is why I created a Hexbear account after my original lemmy.ml account. I didn't want to be locked out on lemmy.ml

        Seems like they will only stop after Hexbear/Lemmygrad are totally isolated. But it's also a shame because lemmy.world has a large population and some communities I like but can't access now since we defederated because they are too lib brained.

        • Dumuabzu
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          10 months ago

          Ngl, I think Hexbear/Lemmygrad moderators/admins should consier making a left-unity instance inspired on Lemmy-world, I think that is needed for sure. But I don't know how to convince the left on Lemmy to doing so. I even let the idea of a hypothetical instance like LemmyLeft or LeftLemmy, I dunno which name to use. But still, I think they should consider making a left-unity instance for go against Lemmy-world and try to get the most amount of leftists, socialists, communists, tankies, Anarchists, etc as possible.

          TLDR: Basically the moderators of Hexbear/Lemmygrad should consider making a Left-Unity United Front instance for deal with the far-rightism from Lemmy-world.

          • davel [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            Hexbear already is that left-unity instance?

            • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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              10 months ago

              Yeah, I considered Hexbear to be Left unity too.

              Would be cool if lemmy.ml joined in some joint-effort though!

              • davel [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                What would it even mean for lemmy.ml to “join” in further diasporizing the left by creating yet another instance?

                • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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                  10 months ago

                  It would mean them putting out a statement saying they won't defederate Left instances and then keeping their word.

                  • davel [he/him]
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                    10 months ago

                    lemmy.ml is not explicitly leftist for specific, tactical reasons, and the very same people created lemmygrad.ml as an explicitly Marxist-Leninist instance.

                    What do you think the “ml” in “.ml’ stands for?

                      • davel [he/him]
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                        10 months ago

                        My point is, lemmy.ml serves a purpose in not being belligerent toward liberals, but you needn’t worry about it defederating from its sister instance or from Hexbear.

                • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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                  10 months ago

                  I know they're federated.

                  I'm saying I originally had a lemmy.ml account which is how I encountered Hexbear and then, due to all the talk/demands of defederating going on, I created a Hexbear account so I could always access Hexbear/Lemmygrad because I feared they might be pressured to deferate someday.

            • Dumuabzu
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              10 months ago

              I mean, the main idea of the LemmyLeft/LeftLemmy would basically allow DemSocs and Left-Wing SocDems too. And also, allow users to create the same communities as there is on Lemmy-World.

              https://hexbear.net/post/1740527

              • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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                10 months ago

                This request largely misunderstands not only the point of Lemmy, but how the fediverse works. Not only would creating another instance further spread people out rather than collect them together, it doesn't matter due to the way federation works. We can see posts on other instances, and the only advantage that creating a new instance would have would be that it is not yet blocked by the liberal instances. It would be blocked in short order, however.

          • Aquilae [he/him, they/them]
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            10 months ago

            Lemmy.ml is already basically that. Technically a general purpose instance, but in practice a left-leaning one since it's moderated by lemmy devs who are commies.

            Relevant xkcd:

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