• Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    3 年前

    I mean is she using it to discuss how Israel more or less tormented and fucked over Ethiopian Jews cuss that'd be good, but tbh she prolly isn't is she :/

    • karl3422 [none/use name]
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      3 年前

      yes Israel did that bad thing but this isn't talking about Israel it's talking about Jews. Also those Ethiopian Jews are also Jewish. Plus Jews aren't white, Jews weren't white before there even was a white

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        3 年前

        Well yeah the concept of white or whiteness is just supremacist bullshit, it's just that I don't understand exactly what she is aiming to state with this tweet. Like of course a supremacist would not see Jews as part of their in group and so not "white enough" or whatever justification they'd use. A more compelling statement would be that Israel itself is a supremacist state that has a specific acceptable type of "Jewish" with all outliers being lesser (then again she'd be lam-posted for that but who gives a fuck).

        • karl3422 [none/use name]
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          3 年前

          there's a deep danger to hearing Israel when someone says Jews. Israel was not mentioned once in this exchange. A white supremisist wouldn't see Jews as not white enough a white supremacist would see Jews as not being human

          • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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            3 年前

            Thing is though I feel it's impossible to remove Israel from the discourse of being Jewish in the American cultural zeitgeist which is fucking tragic, looking at this own podcast ep it seems to be a similar discussion on how the viewpoint of Jewishness has been so deeply wounded by fascistic rhetoric that there has been an artificially created idea of Jewishness that did not exist before (i.e. the diversity of being Jewish in all the various groups that make up such a collective term) which is used by fascist groups as dog whistles or means of reinforcing that term. Sorry if my own points on this are weird, being Jewish in this fuckin country is a weird as hell experience (especially when you got an avid zionist like Fartlow involved).