• CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    My list:

    • Tell crackers to shut the fuck up about it.

    • Have solidarity with our comrades of vaguely East Asian descent, as they're being targeted even more due to the New Cold War push.

    • Buy Chinese to offset boycott attempts and for laughs. Also you'll save money lol.

    • Continue building power so that we can throw wrenches into xenophobic and imperialist policies.

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    • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Damn wouldn't it be crazy if the singular person doing the estimating was a rabid anti-communist and religious nutjob who believed he was on a mission from God to destroy China? Haha anyway...

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        This is a border where actual separatists are probably crossing lmao. I'm assuming they're talking about the China-Afghanistan border.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      What fucking state oppression?

      They're keeping all the :cia: backed moderate militias from liberating the region.

      It’s literally border security at an international border.

      Countries aren't allowed to have borders until they comply with a Rules Based International Order :DaBiden:

    • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      “How to make me fit in better at Washington DC cocktail parties by trashing China more”

  • HarryLime [any]
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    3 years ago

    David Klion is a slimy, soulless little fucking piece of shit, and he libels Vijay Prashad in this article. Here's Prashad's response.

    Klion was also the fuckhead who wrote that the left needed to take Russiagate seriously, btw. His role seems to be to use left publications to shame people for not swallowing Ascella Corridor propaganda.

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Now now we give Joe his choice of candy bar whenever he can go three straight days without calling a black aide the n-word. It's our most progressive action yet!

  • Owl [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Using batons and more than 10,000 canisters of tear gas, officers crushed the protest movement in 2020

    Fuck off, we got all that, tear gas canisters deliberately aimed at our heads, rubber bullets, and run over by horses in one week of BLM protests.

    “I have contacts and friends who are either imprisoned or under threat right now,”

    Lol "contacts" whatever you self important shitter. Also "or under threat" is doing one hell of a lift. Everyone in rural America thinks they're under threat of BLM Antifa Super Terrorists taking their guns literally tomorrow, does that count as "under threat?"

    there was an overwhelming three-to-one consensus against saying anything

    The shitter got buried under a landslide majority in a democratic vote. Rather than simply abiding by the vote, he went to some opinion columnist to stir the same shit. In the name of freedom and democracy, I guess.

    To Li, the incident reflects the influence within the DSA of “tankies,” [...] he’s never seen them in his subcommittee

    Personally I blame the influence of aliens. I've never seen them, but, well, you know.

    DSA is riven by disagreements over many topics. But it serves as a microcosm of an unresolved debate on the left

    3 to 1 majority against. Riven by disagreements.

    Tensions between Washington and Beijing have been increasing on every front—military, economic, diplomatic, cultural

    [Joe biden is] quietly boosting the US troop presence in Taiwan [...] announcing a new defense pact with the United Kingdom and Australia

    Wow look at all these tensions that the Chinese are causing!

    Joe Biden has characterized the confrontation with China as a battle between autocracy and democracy

    As an aside, I agree with Biden on this.

    Many people on the left are trying to navigate the space between the two caricatured poles Wang describes.

    Who? My rhetoric teacher would've docked me an entire grade for that, unless the assignment was specifically about being slimy.

    They are attempting to develop an alternative to a new Cold War—a position that opposes military confrontation in the Asia-Pacific while being open to increased cooperation with Beijing on issues like climate change

    This isn't an amazing thread-the-needle position. This is the most boring pro-China position possible. Because the military confrontation is entirely the US. Citation: the list of examples of increased military tensions from earlier in literally this article

    For this article, I talked to a range of left-leaning policy makers, activists, and intellectuals

    Really? Then why is your star example some random wrecker who wouldn't shut up after getting his proposal voted down 3 to 1?

    [Picture of some pig about to beat someone with a baton. ACAB, as always. The victim is out of frame. Everyone except the cop appears to be a journalist. There is no shield wall or fog of tear gas, because this is a soft baby protest.]

    What, that's the best you could do?

    Everyone I spoke with could agree on one thing: Further escalation between the United States and China would be a disaster.

    Why are you trying to push an anti-China article then?

    [laundry list of bad things that will happen in the US because of increased anti-China tensions]

    "The debate isn’t whether China is a good or bad actor, [... ] the question is: What is the US going to do about it?”

    Okay I think my rhetoric teacher would've given me some points back for that one, that was slick.

    List of unrelated bad things -> imply China is cause of bad things -> what are we gonna do about it? But this particle is formatted as a list of quotes from experts, so it has an excuse to suddenly jump to a thought that doesn't follow. But this is the first and second expert quotes, so the pattern isn't established yet. Just implication.

    Anyway I got tired of reviewing this article so I hope you enjoy this. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

  • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    What Should the Left Do About China?

    If by "left" he means like socialists and communists, then they should be pointing to every accomplishment China makes as evidence of an alternative system to capitalism working.

    If he means all the DSA libs and think tank "progressives" that he interviewed for this piece, then they should cry abt it.

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  • pastalicious [he/him, undecided]
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    3 years ago

    Agreed! The ascendant left is failing to wield its considerable power to address these big policy issues. Frankly the left is being very irresponsible by not solving [insert crisis here]. If the left won’t fix this problem we will have to turn to the perpetual underdogs, the liberals, who have never had their turn wielding power or shaping policy. [add one more satirical statement here]!

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I don’t know … learn Chinese? Spend quality time living/working in China? Open up a Weibo or bilibili account to ask questions and participate in their civil society? Learn about what the Chinese are saying in various media/platforms —academic articles, newspapers, party communications on all levels, Weibo, bilibili, douban, Zhihu (many of which have varying ideological leanings) — about their own country, lives, policies, culture? Study Chinese histories and understand the different historical imaginations? … I’m sure they’ve already been doing all that since they are PAID to think about China, right?

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Cede the ground that there is a genocide and then argue that there is no cause for invasion :galaxy-brain:

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        influence within the DSA

        You see, there are good right-thinking liberal DSA members and then there are the bad radicalized militant leftist DSA members, and we just need to divide the organization into these two groups so we can remove the dangerous elements.

        If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear. Just comply with these new regulatory protocols on your organization, keep a strict list of attendance to help identify any radicals that have infiltrated your group, and facilitate any state officials that may come by the investigate efforts to undermine domestic safety and security.

        Otherwise, we're going to be forced to presume you are working with the terrorists.

  • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Is this the same "progressive thinker" that simping for Neo Nazi in Ukraine? If they are, they their opinion on China are pointless.