BREAKING: PUTIN ANNOUNCES RUSSIA RECOGNIZES THE INDEPENDENCE OF LPR AND DPR -- (*Meaning Russia no longer recognizes LPR and DPR as Ukrainian territory, paving way for possible military assistance or peacekeeping; and/or protection of its 700k citizens living there. - *ASB) pic.twitter.com/B5zLCXLH5K— ASB News / MILITARY〽️ (@ASBMilitary) February 21, 2022
They can't though, as long as there's territory conflict, they'll not able to join NATO. By doing this, Russia cut off path for them to join unless they retake them back.
Is the provision that NATO can't admit members who have a border conflict real? I just heard that from a podcast about the russo-georgian war which I don't take as authoritative. If this was really true, then was Ukrainian membership ever a possibility since they don't recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea? It seems like a cut and dry case of "no NATO for you". Why was both sides of this debate ever taking this seriously?
States which have ethnic disputes or external territorial disputes, including irredentist claims, or internal jurisdictional disputes must settle those disputes by peaceful means in accordance with OSCE principles. Resolution of such disputes would be a factor in determining whether to invite a state to join the Alliance.
Like any other part of international law, it's mostly just a rule that is kept as long as it's convenient for the real powers. If you start looking at it as a natural law of the universe, it falls apart pretty quickly, so instead try to think of it as an american traffic law instead. It theoretically applies to everyone, however de facto it doesn't.
They can't though, as long as there's territory conflict, they'll not able to join NATO. By doing this, Russia cut off path for them to join unless they retake them back.
Does this apply to Crimea too?
Yea
Is the provision that NATO can't admit members who have a border conflict real? I just heard that from a podcast about the russo-georgian war which I don't take as authoritative. If this was really true, then was Ukrainian membership ever a possibility since they don't recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea? It seems like a cut and dry case of "no NATO for you". Why was both sides of this debate ever taking this seriously?
States which have ethnic disputes or external territorial disputes, including irredentist claims, or internal jurisdictional disputes must settle those disputes by peaceful means in accordance with OSCE principles. Resolution of such disputes would be a factor in determining whether to invite a state to join the Alliance.
Interesting...so...Spain and the UK can't be in NATO, because Gibraltar?
Like any other part of international law, it's mostly just a rule that is kept as long as it's convenient for the real powers. If you start looking at it as a natural law of the universe, it falls apart pretty quickly, so instead try to think of it as an american traffic law instead. It theoretically applies to everyone, however de facto it doesn't.
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