When one side refuses peace and attacks, they are met with the consequences of that refusal to make peace. The thousands dead in Donbas, killed by the Ukranian government, are why this is happening.
For example, German civilians suffered terribly in the end of WW2. Regardless, if you criticized the USSR for the counterattack, I'd just call you a fascist and move on.
Again, the Ukranians can surrender at any moment. The only demand is they stop attacking and agree to a peace deal where they leave their minorities alone.
This is all fine and good but I'm telling you that you're going to shut down literally everyone you talk to who isn't a super ML with your rhetoric about aggressors. It's simply not going to be effective.
"Welcome to reality" also not doing favors but we're among friends here so I get what you're saying.
I honestly hate US imperialism so much I can't approach the topic with an aim to educate or convince anymore. Those years are behind me, I'm more like an angry old man yelling at the clouds now.
This isn't 1800, they have a dozen others in the modern day. This is a sad attempt at portraying them as a backwards Victorian style county.
They also built an actual bridge to Crimea, so..
I'm guessing western propaganda forgot to mention that.
The real reason. 97% of Crimean people voted to join Russia. Don't they have a right to self determination?
Removed by mod
Welcome to reality.
When one side refuses peace and attacks, they are met with the consequences of that refusal to make peace. The thousands dead in Donbas, killed by the Ukranian government, are why this is happening.
For example, German civilians suffered terribly in the end of WW2. Regardless, if you criticized the USSR for the counterattack, I'd just call you a fascist and move on.
Again, the Ukranians can surrender at any moment. The only demand is they stop attacking and agree to a peace deal where they leave their minorities alone.
This is all fine and good but I'm telling you that you're going to shut down literally everyone you talk to who isn't a super ML with your rhetoric about aggressors. It's simply not going to be effective.
"Welcome to reality" also not doing favors but we're among friends here so I get what you're saying.
I honestly hate US imperialism so much I can't approach the topic with an aim to educate or convince anymore. Those years are behind me, I'm more like an angry old man yelling at the clouds now.
I fully agree with your criticism in that regard.
Removed by mod
Removed by mod
Removed by mod
deleted by creator
deleted by creator
Most westerners have no idea Ukraine couldn't honor the peace agreement because their Nazis would rise up otherwise.
Totally off their radar.
Anything is better than literal Nazis. Critical support for Russia.
deleted by creator
"Muh warm water port"
This isn't 1800, they have a dozen others in the modern day. This is a sad attempt at portraying them as a backwards Victorian style county. They also built an actual bridge to Crimea, so..
I'm guessing western propaganda forgot to mention that.
The real reason. 97% of Crimean people voted to join Russia. Don't they have a right to self determination?
deleted by creator
And you're ignoring the 97% of Crimeans who voted to join Russia.
Why do you deny them the right to self determination in the face of ethnic oppression?
Removed by mod
Terminal lib brain.
You're just a fascist sympathizer and I don't care to explain the Western propaganda out of your head.
deleted by creator
maybe this site is being astroturfed by the CIA now
deleted by creator