Being told this is fairly reliable for info on the situation in Ukraine. let me know if it isn't. https://liveuamap.com/

  • toledosequel [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    In 2014 there was a mass movement in Ukraine against the Pro-Russian leader. It was a warranted backlash against the status quo and their articulated alternative to it was a pivot to the EU, which represented an escape from the Post-Soviet condition. Three factors led to the uprising's rightward and violent turn

      1. The government response was incredibly violent. As history shows this only works to make people more angry and radical.
      1. The Ukrainian Communist Party lost credibility with the Ukrainians by siding with the state. They eventually split into pro and anti Maidan factions but it was too late.
      1. The most organized, well funded, mobilized force in Ukrainian politics was the far right. When it saw anti-Russian sentiment flare up it quickly took advantage.

    So as the state cracks down the opposition grows in intensity, and an organized Nationalist far-right is quick to channel it. Now during all this Western money and NGOs are pouring into Ukraine in support of the protests, and the most rabidly Anti-Russian elements, the far right, benefit the most.

    The eastern part of the country is more Pro-Russian than the West. There the protests were more Street-Brawls between pro and anti Russians.

    In response to the regime change and western involvement in it, Russia moves in and takes Crimea and sends weapons to the Eastern Pro-Russian factions as the unrest in the east devolves into a civil war. The Civil War is fought between pro-Russian militias supported by the Russian state and the Ukrainian state supported by Nationalist Anti-Russian militias (in turn supported by Western states like the US and Israel), the most famous one being the Neo-Nazi group Azov.

    Most Ukrainians are worn out from politics, whatever they do things never seem to change. I think 80% don't identify with any political party. The Far-Right, very well funded and organized has been succesful in channeling growing anti-Russian sentiment, but their influence in politics doesn't come from votes although they go above and beyond to infiltrate Ukrainian social society. It comes from their presence in the military and their paramilitary groups. There is the looming shadow of a fascist military coup, with no guarantee the Americans wouldn't support it, if deescalation is pursued by Ukrainian politicans. The growing nationalism fueled by anti-russian sentiments and the far rights mobilization and presence in society means there might be a sufficient minority to keep it in power.

    That's Ukraines' Nazi problem from what i can see