Being told this is fairly reliable for info on the situation in Ukraine. let me know if it isn’t. https://liveuamap.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#/media/File:2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine.svg

  • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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    3 年前

    Together we defeated Hitler, and we will defeat Putin, too.

    who the fuck is we?

    russia literally defeated hitler

    where the fuck is @wombat

    • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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      3 年前

      Weird, I don't recall the USSR announcing they'd fight back the Nazis using only ethnic Russians.

      However, this stunning revelation you've had really changes our understanding of history, and will no doubt revolutionize the historical journals.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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        3 年前

        Explain to garbage what you mean when you say the Soviet Union was a multi-national nation where millions of Soviet citizens perished in the fight against fascism. Don't let misunderstandings spiral out of control

        • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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          3 年前

          yeah the soviets are what became russia. right? i don't get where i'm wrong here. the lines may have moved a little bit, but not much, and it's not race based bullshit.

          • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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            3 年前

            Russia was the largest of the member states of the Soviet Union. That does not mean anyone else was "less Soviet". Russia is in many ways the successor to the Soviet Union, but that does not mean "Russia" defeated the Nazis. They were the largest contributor, but Ukrainians, Byelorussians, Dagestani, etc. all played their part and suffered.

            In the context of the Soviet Union, ethnic Russians were felt to receive preferential treatment over other ethnic groups, and even moreso now there is a tendency for Russia to view the Soviet victory in the Great Patriotic War as a uniquely Russian victory, which elides the great suffering and contributions of particularly Byelorussia and Ukraine, who got fought over at least twice, with some specific places being fought over many more times. They provided front line troops as well as partisans, and also suffered the reprisals that came with any resistance.

            • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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              3 年前

              thanks for the explanation. i'm not trying to diminish the contributions peoples played towards destroying the nazis. i'm probably being a simpleton by grouping the entirety of the the soviets as russia.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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            3 年前

            No, Russia didn't fight nazi Germany. The Soviet Union fought nazi Germany. That includes the Kazakhs, Buriyats, Armenians, Ukrainians, Belarusian, Georgians, etc.