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  • Yurt_Owl
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    7 months ago

    Fight club moment. I still can't really parse how that movie was supposed to be anything but pro what was happening. I really really can't see where the satire is supposed to be. Although its been a long while since I've watched it maybe I'm forgetting something.

    American psycho is more on the nose but still easy to look past.

    Cod world at war is an example of right wing media making communists look cool by accident though.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      7 months ago

      The book is much, much more grotesque. One of their big failures was casting Pitt, Norton, and the lady whose name I can't remember. They're all gorgeous and that's really not what fight club was. Basically nothing sexy happens in the book, it's just page after page of "Are the straights alright"?

      • Yurt_Owl
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        7 months ago

        Huh I've never considered reading it might give it a go. Does the same apply to American psycho?

        • AlkaliMarxist
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          7 months ago

          Sort of, it is much more brutal in it's violence and there isn't anything 'titillating' in the book, while a couple of scenes in the movie have attractive nude people so it could be seen as a little sexy. You couldn't really do American Psycho any other way though, Bateman and the women he sees are all young and obsessed with beauty and social status, and the relationship between sex and violence is a key theme. The main difference IMO is that, at least in the movie, there aren't many instances where you laugh at the characters in Fight Club, while there are plenty of scenes of Bateman being a clown. I'd argue that, between the two films, it takes more effort to read Fight Club as satire than American Psycho.

    • UltraGreen [comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      Wait what? To me, fight club is about toxic masculinity, male loneliness, and how destructive they are. And how instead of being violent towards your fellow man, you should group together and blow up banks.

      I mean, people miss the mark on movies like that all the time. But, Fight Club is in actuality, a based movie..... Right?

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      7 months ago

      American psycho is more on the nose but still easy to look past.

      Is it? I found it very on the nose, when I finally watched it I was shocked there were actually people out there who didn’t get it.

      Fight Club 100% though

      • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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        7 months ago

        Is it? I found it very on the nose, when I finally watched it I was shocked there were actually people out there who didn’t get it.

        Casting an attractive actor to play a character with a certain ideology, means you're supporting the ideology

        A lot of people still don't understand this. Dunno why

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      Treyarch wanted(?) me to recoil at the horrors of war, meanwhile 12 year old me is like "haha they killin nazis comrade-doggo "