So i'm not super big into the history of Christ, but wasn't the man damn near a socialist? it's supremely ironic many of the most greedy people in the world worship the man tbh..
"Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you"
"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me."
"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common." (admittedly this is the early Christians after Jesus died)
"You cannot serve both God and Money."
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God."
"Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Christianity has been appropriated since the Romans turned it into a state religion. Reformation comes in waves.
Christianity has always been in a constant state of struggle between those who embrace its message of liberation + egalitarianism versus those who blasphemy my words as justification for their idolatry of hate + power.
Look into liberation theology. The current pope is rumored to be an advocate. Basically Christian communism, which is not novel or radical by any means.
I'm inclined to agree, but I'm specifically talking about the religious services. Maybe I just got lucky that I ended up with Franciscans, but mass was always really interesting and well-researched, and there was always a focus on the "works" aspect of "works and praise."
Plus, I just like the traditional music a lot more than some teenager on an electric guitar singing about how much they love God for 40 minutes while the church attendees wave their hands in the air.
Paul is the one who had issues with women and queer folks. He was a flawed man filled with regret and envy. Even still, his words have been manipulated to justify terror.
I love all trans people, they are following the truth of their soul which has been given to them by the creator. The body is sacred and so it should match the soul.
Proto-anarcho-socialist, yes. Capitalism hadn’t been developed yet, so it was of course missing aspects.
Still, the early church had fully communal property, gender equality, mutual healthcare, and were anti-imperialist to the point that the Romans started executing them because they kept setting fire to Roman buildings.
So i'm not super big into the history of Christ, but wasn't the man damn near a socialist? it's supremely ironic many of the most greedy people in the world worship the man tbh..
Yes. He's very, very clear on the point.
"Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you"
"Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me."
"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common." (admittedly this is the early Christians after Jesus died)
"You cannot serve both God and Money."
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God."
"Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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Even Jesus wasn't above sectarianism smh my head
Just like us!
Some beautiful stuff there, too bad the right has hijacked Jesus the historical man as well as the Christian religion.
Christianity has been appropriated since the Romans turned it into a state religion. Reformation comes in waves.
Christianity has always been in a constant state of struggle between those who embrace its message of liberation + egalitarianism versus those who blasphemy my words as justification for their idolatry of hate + power.
Look into liberation theology. The current pope is rumored to be an advocate. Basically Christian communism, which is not novel or radical by any means.
Socialism with Christ characteristics
:cross-and-sickle:
Taking Marx's vampire metaphor literally and using vampire hunter tools to fight the bourgeoisie
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Catholic mass just hits different, tbh
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I'm inclined to agree, but I'm specifically talking about the religious services. Maybe I just got lucky that I ended up with Franciscans, but mass was always really interesting and well-researched, and there was always a focus on the "works" aspect of "works and praise."
Plus, I just like the traditional music a lot more than some teenager on an electric guitar singing about how much they love God for 40 minutes while the church attendees wave their hands in the air.
Big fan of Franciscans and modern non-missionary Jesuits.
With praise and worship, all that I ask is that you make a joyful noise onto the heavens. The intent is what matters.
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Paul is the one who had issues with women and queer folks. He was a flawed man filled with regret and envy. Even still, his words have been manipulated to justify terror.
I love all trans people, they are following the truth of their soul which has been given to them by the creator. The body is sacred and so it should match the soul.
Didn't you get banned 3 days ago?
He has risen
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Proto-anarcho-socialist, yes. Capitalism hadn’t been developed yet, so it was of course missing aspects.
Still, the early church had fully communal property, gender equality, mutual healthcare, and were anti-imperialist to the point that the Romans started executing them because they kept setting fire to Roman buildings.
Then boom, appropriated by the state and turned into a tool of domination. If only they had Mark Fisher around to warn them.
There are even other sections of the Bible that espouse such things
"It is easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into Heaven"