• leonadas444 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    So i'm not super big into the history of Christ, but wasn't the man damn near a socialist? it's supremely ironic many of the most greedy people in the world worship the man tbh..

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Yes. He's very, very clear on the point.

      "Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you"

      "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me."

      "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common." (admittedly this is the early Christians after Jesus died)

      "You cannot serve both God and Money."

      "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God."

      "Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

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      • leonadas444 [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Some beautiful stuff there, too bad the right has hijacked Jesus the historical man as well as the Christian religion.

        • Jesus [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Christianity has been appropriated since the Romans turned it into a state religion. Reformation comes in waves.

          Christianity has always been in a constant state of struggle between those who embrace its message of liberation + egalitarianism versus those who blasphemy my words as justification for their idolatry of hate + power.

        • D3FNC [any]
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          3 years ago

          Look into liberation theology. The current pope is rumored to be an advocate. Basically Christian communism, which is not novel or radical by any means.

        • p_sharikov [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Taking Marx's vampire metaphor literally and using vampire hunter tools to fight the bourgeoisie

          • MerryChristmas [any]
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            3 years ago

            I'm inclined to agree, but I'm specifically talking about the religious services. Maybe I just got lucky that I ended up with Franciscans, but mass was always really interesting and well-researched, and there was always a focus on the "works" aspect of "works and praise."

            Plus, I just like the traditional music a lot more than some teenager on an electric guitar singing about how much they love God for 40 minutes while the church attendees wave their hands in the air.

            • Jesus [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Big fan of Franciscans and modern non-missionary Jesuits.

              With praise and worship, all that I ask is that you make a joyful noise onto the heavens. The intent is what matters.

          • Jesus [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Paul is the one who had issues with women and queer folks. He was a flawed man filled with regret and envy. Even still, his words have been manipulated to justify terror.

            I love all trans people, they are following the truth of their soul which has been given to them by the creator. The body is sacred and so it should match the soul.

    • Jesus [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Proto-anarcho-socialist, yes. Capitalism hadn’t been developed yet, so it was of course missing aspects.

      Still, the early church had fully communal property, gender equality, mutual healthcare, and were anti-imperialist to the point that the Romans started executing them because they kept setting fire to Roman buildings.

      • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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        3 years ago

        Then boom, appropriated by the state and turned into a tool of domination. If only they had Mark Fisher around to warn them.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      There are even other sections of the Bible that espouse such things

      "It is easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into Heaven"

  • Jesus [he/him]
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    The Cleansing Of The Temple

    The Gospel Of John

    13 And the Jewish passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, 14 In the temple he found merchants selling cattle, sheep and doves for sacrifices. He saw dealers sitting at tables exchanging money and roman currency.

    15 Jesus made a whip out of cords, and drove all the merchants out from the Temple. He freed the sheep and cattle, scattered the money changers’ coins across the floor, and overturned their tables.

    16 To those who sold doves he said, Get these out of here. Stop turning my Father’s house into a marketplace!

    17 Then his disciples remembered this prophecy from the Scriptures: “Concern for God’s house will be my undoing.”

    18 and the Jewish leaders demanded, “What are you doing? If God gave you authority to do this, show us a miraculous sign to prove it!”

    19 All right,” Jesus replied. “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”

    20 They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple! and you are going to raise it in three days?”

    21 But the temple Jesus had spoken of was the flesh and the bones of his body. 22 and when he was resurrected after his crucifixion, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.

    - JOHN 2: 13-22

    The Gospel of Matthew

    12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of those that sold doves,

    13 And he said unto them “It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but you have made it a den of robbers!”

    - Matthew 21:12-13

    • Jesus [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

      - Matthew 10:34

  • Jesus [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is pretty close, but there was more blood involved (not mine, the merchant’s).

    • Jesus [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      14 In the temple Jesus found merchants selling cattle, sheep and doves for sacrifices. He saw dealers sitting at tables exchanging money and roman currency.

      15 Jesus made a whip out of cords, and drove all the merchants out from the Temple. He freed the sheep and cattle, scattered the money changers’ coins across the floor, and overturned their tables.

      16 To those who sold doves he said, Get these out of here. Stop turning my Father’s house into a marketplace!

    • Tervell [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      the antichrist meme, but with Ross

      I HATE ALWAYS-ONLINE GAMES

      a bunch of soldiers with "EA" on their helmets

      we've got you surrounded! surrender all your copies of games we've taken offline!