There will be an event in my town soonish about the background of the Ukraine conflict, and the speaker is a total lib. What questions should I ask, what incontrovertible facts can I use to combat liberalism?

I have Victoria Nuland and John McCain speaking and handing out cookies on the Maidan and talking about their material support for the coup. The revelations were used by western press but they came from Wikileaks and I can totally see that being dismissed out of hand. They'll probably also obfuscate the Nazi elements in a similar manner to the way the western press is doing constantly.

I have the UN/OSCE reports on civilian casualties in Donbas, I have the Congressional arguments about whether or not they want to support the Nazis directly... What else?

  • TheOtherwise [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Ask him his thoughts on this excerpt from George Keenan (Mr 'X', .the guy who coined the term 'soviet containment') on NATO expansion

    I think it is the beginning of a new cold war I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else.

    This expansion would make the Founding Fathers of this country turn over in their graves.

    I was particularly bothered by the references to Russia as a country dying to attack Western Europe. Don’t people understand? Our differences in the cold war were with the Soviet Communist regime. And now we are turning our backs on the very people who mounted the greatest bloodless revolution in history to remove that Soviet regime.

    And Russia’s democracy is as far advanced, if not farther, as any of these countries we’ve just signed up to defend from Russia

    It shows so little understanding of Russian history and Soviet history. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then [the NATO expanders] will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are — but this is just wrong.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20220201033402/https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/02/opinion/foreign-affairs-now-a-word-from-x.html