It just feels difficult to have meaningful conversations on here sometimes. Like yes I dislike America, but I don't need to act like nothing good has ever come out of it. Maybe China is better than America, but I don't want Xi nuking American cities. I don't think war is suddenly cool and good because Ukraine has some nazis in it. Not everyone I disagree with is some bumbling mass of idiocy, a lot of times we just differ on certain core values.
An additional effect of the based takes arms race is that people wind up with a lot of takes they can't back up, which makes people defensive and kind of hostile towards anyone who is putting them on the spot by trying to start a real discussion.