Anyone else here lie completely outside of the American_civil_religion_loop (football, basketball, marvel, star wars, game of thrones, breaking bad) for the last 30 years?
Yeah. And i'm super obtuse about it. I liked rogue one a lot bc of the themes of "actually you should kill fascists" and little people fighting back. I liked last jedi bc i thought it handled the force well, portraying it as more of a spiritual thing that helps you be a sneaky bastard instead of just making you a super hero. I liked mandalorian when it was doing monster of the week stuff and not a plot, but only watched season one.
If you haven't seen Andor, YOU HAVE TO SEE ANDOR. It's like if in 1979 George Lucas decided to go all in with the Viet Cong allegory. I guess the evil empire being opposed being the stsr wars one got it through Disney, but it is genuinely the most leftist show ever maybe by accident but it explores the reality of forming a revolutionary insurrectionist rebellion in a very real and grounded way. It was made by libs but Andor is based on Stalin in his youth and cause it's star wars the libs let him be the hero. I cannot overstate how fucking good Andor is. I've tested the waters and libs don't see the stsr wars empire as a metaphor for any real empires, but for a leftist it feels weird this was even allowed to be aired. All it takes is the smallest amount of media literacy for it to be the best thing you've ever seen. It's by a wide margin the best thing stsr wars has produced period. The first movie and empire aren't even in the same conversation. Andor is a fucking masterpiece, the first 3 episodes don't feel it cause they're setup, but once things are going, I completely guarantee you'll not only like it but love it. It's that good
If that doesn't convince you, I'm a star wars nerd sociologist more than a fan. I only like the first 2 movies and even then I think empire isn't as great as people think. Buy I find star wars and everything surrounding it to be fascinatingly stupid. Andor isn't stupid. I'm being as adamant as possible, watch this specific show, there's no lore bullshit or fanservice and all you really need to see gor it to work is the 1977 original movie
I am 100% on board. I just watched a video essay about how it differs from the self indulgent star wars slop and the quotes they were using as examples just kept hammering me, like "Oh shit whoever wrote this gets it, there's no way they don't get how horrible and necessary revolution is". Rogue One had a really strong resonance for me, hitting what I always though Star Wars ought to be about. I've never understood a lot of SW fans, because to me the story was always instructional; This is what you're supposed to do when you're faced with the Empire. This is the military side of it, the fighting and dying, and here with the Jedi there's the spiritual, moral side of it, the ideals that keep you from getting twisted up inside. I'ma queue it up.
yeah this mindset is not conducive to a happy life in my opinion. and i find it odd how many people are proud of bassicly never being able to make small talk.
oh I can make small talk just fine, that's not the problem. I guess feeling community requires a little more. I did not experience hand-clapping joy at the DunKings commercial
I was going to answer yes because I'm entirely estranged from streaming services, but there's plenty of entertainment products I consume. I guess I partake in slop as a treat
Anyone else here lie completely outside of the American_civil_religion_loop (football, basketball, marvel, star wars, game of thrones, breaking bad) for the last 30 years?
Sorta. I still like star wars, but it's sw the way i remember it from when i was 15. But yeah otherwise super alienated.
Andor and The Mandolorian are worth pirating. The rest of it's not great.
Yeah. And i'm super obtuse about it. I liked rogue one a lot bc of the themes of "actually you should kill fascists" and little people fighting back. I liked last jedi bc i thought it handled the force well, portraying it as more of a spiritual thing that helps you be a sneaky bastard instead of just making you a super hero. I liked mandalorian when it was doing monster of the week stuff and not a plot, but only watched season one.
If you haven't seen Andor, YOU HAVE TO SEE ANDOR. It's like if in 1979 George Lucas decided to go all in with the Viet Cong allegory. I guess the evil empire being opposed being the stsr wars one got it through Disney, but it is genuinely the most leftist show ever maybe by accident but it explores the reality of forming a revolutionary insurrectionist rebellion in a very real and grounded way. It was made by libs but Andor is based on Stalin in his youth and cause it's star wars the libs let him be the hero. I cannot overstate how fucking good Andor is. I've tested the waters and libs don't see the stsr wars empire as a metaphor for any real empires, but for a leftist it feels weird this was even allowed to be aired. All it takes is the smallest amount of media literacy for it to be the best thing you've ever seen. It's by a wide margin the best thing stsr wars has produced period. The first movie and empire aren't even in the same conversation. Andor is a fucking masterpiece, the first 3 episodes don't feel it cause they're setup, but once things are going, I completely guarantee you'll not only like it but love it. It's that good
If that doesn't convince you, I'm a star wars nerd sociologist more than a fan. I only like the first 2 movies and even then I think empire isn't as great as people think. Buy I find star wars and everything surrounding it to be fascinatingly stupid. Andor isn't stupid. I'm being as adamant as possible, watch this specific show, there's no lore bullshit or fanservice and all you really need to see gor it to work is the 1977 original movie
I am 100% on board. I just watched a video essay about how it differs from the self indulgent star wars slop and the quotes they were using as examples just kept hammering me, like "Oh shit whoever wrote this gets it, there's no way they don't get how horrible and necessary revolution is". Rogue One had a really strong resonance for me, hitting what I always though Star Wars ought to be about. I've never understood a lot of SW fans, because to me the story was always instructional; This is what you're supposed to do when you're faced with the Empire. This is the military side of it, the fighting and dying, and here with the Jedi there's the spiritual, moral side of it, the ideals that keep you from getting twisted up inside. I'ma queue it up.
You're in for a great time
I feel lonely in a crowded room
yeah this mindset is not conducive to a happy life in my opinion. and i find it odd how many people are proud of bassicly never being able to make small talk.
oh I can make small talk just fine, that's not the problem. I guess feeling community requires a little more. I did not experience hand-clapping joy at the DunKings commercial
I feel that, there’s something nice about being able to be a part of the crowd.
I wouldn't call that The American Civil Religion. That's just mainstream cultural media.
potato potato
Ive been outside the loop my whole life
Breaking Bad is good
I was going to answer yes because I'm entirely estranged from streaming services, but there's plenty of entertainment products I consume. I guess I partake in slop as a treat
Yes
Nah. I dont watch sports anymore but i do watch and enjoy all those scripted things.