under UK law by default the surrogate is considered the legal parent and surogacy agreements are not enforceable by the courts. If pressed there may be a custody hearing but again under uk law the person who gives birth is considered the legal mother so it would be an uphill battle to take the kid away given the legal status of the biological parents is "some guy who wants the kid".
basically in my country the surrogate pretty much has the right to first refusal on the kid unless the court would take away the kid anyway for welfare concerns
there are exceptions but that doesn't change the exploitative nature. The relationship between the workers and their boss is exploitative, this doesn't change despite there being good bosses
commerical surrogacy yes surrogacy where only medical fees can legally be paid I would argue is fine
I see the parallels with the sex work argument and I think the comparisson raises an excellent point.
So when people talk about abolishing the family do they generally mean the model of 2 parents and a kid completely isolated from anyone because in my experience that doesn't actually exist and family includes friends and other relatives
isn't that called doing someone a favour? and yeah it kinda is fine
a slave definitionally doesn't have the right to not consent to do what their told that's what makes them a slave
yeah so does a surrogate have the right to consent to have their child taken away
under UK law by default the surrogate is considered the legal parent and surogacy agreements are not enforceable by the courts. If pressed there may be a custody hearing but again under uk law the person who gives birth is considered the legal mother so it would be an uphill battle to take the kid away given the legal status of the biological parents is "some guy who wants the kid".
basically in my country the surrogate pretty much has the right to first refusal on the kid unless the court would take away the kid anyway for welfare concerns
I mean I can imagine a person being a surrogate for a friend who cant have a child willingly. In most cases its just exploitative though
there are exceptions but that doesn't change the exploitative nature. The relationship between the workers and their boss is exploitative, this doesn't change despite there being good bosses
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Criminalizing surrogacy would 100% make things worse… I can’t see why anyone that cares about people with wombs would support that.
commerical surrogacy yes surrogacy where only medical fees can legally be paid I would argue is fine
I see the parallels with the sex work argument and I think the comparisson raises an excellent point.
So when people talk about abolishing the family do they generally mean the model of 2 parents and a kid completely isolated from anyone because in my experience that doesn't actually exist and family includes friends and other relatives
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