• TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I went to Scotland and the deer have done a number on the wilderness because they'll eat tree shoots. So all you get is vast grasses and this red vine shit over rolling hills and mountains.

    At their national museum in Edinburgh, they had this exhibit on re-introducing wolves - which would actually work pretty great! That was one thing Europeans always asked me about Canada, have you seen wolves have you seen bears? People long for a natural connection to their lands and know, even at a very deep level, that something has gone terribly wrong with the natural world. Unfortunately, they'd have to re-introduce like Yellowstone grey wolves and not indigenous wolves (because all those were killed by the 17th century) but it's better than the alternative of letting hunters out to kill tons of deer and hoping the deer don't just figure out how to avoid being killed at massive rates.

    • Ziege_Bock [any]
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      3 years ago

      I've read that there's kind of an impasse to rewilding Scotland. In order to to reintroduce predators, private landowners would ask for the installation of fences, but Scotland has a "right to roam" enabling the freedom of all persons to walk and hike anywhere. As a result, fences are not able to be installed as they would prohibit roaming on public and private land.

      How truly strange this all is.

      • Fartbutt420 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        "We'd love to save the world but actually the rules say we can't" is my least favourite lib excuse

      • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        fences are not able to be installed as they would prohibit roaming on public and private land.

        Just add a gate with a closing spring wtf.

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          "This chest-high fence absolutely prevents me from going in this direction"

          -Scots

          • Ecoleo [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            "This chest-high fence absolutely prevents me from crossing the country in a totally straight line"

            -Geowizard

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Fences wouldn't stop wolves anyway. They're smart, and they can dig and jump.

      • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        I think you might be right, maybe I mixed it up in my head with the exhibit pointing to other successful re-introduction programs like Yellowstone instead of saying it had to be north american wolves.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      There are still some eurasian wolves left in parts of eastern Europe and the steppe, I think. They'd be a little more "local" than North American wolves.

    • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Unfortunately, they’d have to re-introduce like Yellowstone grey wolves and not indigenous wolves (because all those were killed by the 17th century)

      Meh, at a certain point a wolf is a wolf. That being said, there are still gray wolves in Europe, so we could just use those. Not that it'll ever happen; not in my lifetime, at least.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        As far as I know north American wolves arrived in NA at the same time as humans during the last ice age. They've only had 10-15 thousand years to diverge from Eurasian wolves. They could figure it out.