I question why the US is doing the rejection rather than Ukraine (and similarly, why the UK rejected the last peace talks...)
There's more expiring guns to be given away yet, and more Ukrainian property to be bought at the firesale*
- https://privatization.gov.ua/en/
I'm pretty sure the Ukrainians will cease firing once the Russians leave their country and stop trying to murder them.
I'm pretty sure the Russians will cease firing once the Ukrainians stop trying to murder them.
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Here's a question nobody has been able to answer for me yet.
Why would Russia abandon a 2 year long military operation they're winning.
Literally just because a bunch of American libs said they should online?
All reports are pointing to it not being the russians that would benefit from a ceasefire.
If you believe this, then you're completely ignorant of the events that led to this war in the first place.
A coup leading to a more U.S.-aligned government. The U.S. has only done that 100 times, including once in the last decade right there in Ukraine.
The same way they did in 2014. Don't worry, the US is very used to this (and this is just from a NATOpedia article).
In this scenario, by assuring the coup plotters that the U.S. will keep funding the war as long as they keep fighting it, as opposed to cutting bait with the coup as an excuse. The coup plotters would then accuse the deposed government of treasonously planning a surrender (a mischaracterization, but that's par for the course) and portray themselves as acting in the national interest. They then keep the status quo of the war, with just a change in management. This would all fit neatly with the anti-Russia/pro-U.S. propaganda Ukraine has been subjected to. Any Russian objection would be written off as lies.
If Russia tried to support a coup government, that government would be branded as treasonous even if they sought to act in the best interest of the Ukrainian people. The U.S. would immediately seek to discredit and destabilize the coup government, and a lot of Ukrainians would listen as they're fighting a war with Russia.
Zelensky just removed Zaluzhny from heading the military because Zaluzhny was getting too popular and becoming a political threat. Important to point out that Zelensky has called off the elections that should be happening right now and that there's growing dissent for his administration due to how poorly the war is going. Also worth pointing out that Zaluzhny has ties to the far right militias of the Ukrainian armed forces and flaunted this fact when Zelensky first tried to have him removed. It would be very easy for NATO to back Zaluzhny and his right wing thugs (the same ones that took part in the maidan coup) against Zelensky if Zelensky breaks with the West's wishes. US intelligence agencies are very good at pulling at threads of existing dissent to create chaos and oust difficult political leaders
Because no fighting was happening in Ukraine before the Russians entered the country, right? The war just fell out of a coconut tree?
Ukraine should leave Donbas because they're clearly not wanted there.
That’s really bizarre because why does America have a say in Russo-Ukrainian affairs? Shouldn’t a ceasefire be determined by the two parties not currently at a ceasefire?
Somebody who is good at geopolitics explain
Yeah why is it that also other western leaders like johnson visit ukraine and suddenly peace talks stop? https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/ Why are they encouraging a war where Ukraine would depend on even more western military and economic aid?
Somebody who navigates all this please help us understand
Was it conditional? Or was it just a straight up offer of a temporary cease fire?
So possible options as I see them:
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Biden's USA is stubborn and nihilistic and just wants to kill as many Ukrainians and Russians as possible before Trump comes in and forces Ukraine to accept a treaty
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USA (and Ukraine) knows that Putin hasn't changed its demands at all so any talks are pointless
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USA (and Ukraine) knows that Russia is losing and doesn't want to negotiate
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Biden forgot how to use a phone and is too embarrased to ask
I'm personally going with 2 with a sprinkle of 4 and 1. In my happy dreams, 3.
Why would Russia change its demands? It's winning. If the other side is winning, you want to negotiate because the terms will only get worse.
That would imply that Ukraine and USA should be asking for negotiations.
That's right, they should be. They aren't doing so because it's in the interest of the U.S. to continue the war, and the Ukrainian government more or less exists at the pleasure of the U.S.
The one thing that the Liberals have decided to take a stand on, "Russia Bad!", to the point that they'll keep the war machine churning through Ukranian bodies until its some other administration's responsibility to turn off the US money spigot. Then they'll squeal about it being a Putin Puppet's doing or some shit.
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