As others have pointed out here, collapse is a process, not an event. But that being said, I think that if Trump gets reelected (which is almost inevitable at this point) his aggressive deportation plan might very well be a huge catalyst for inter-state conflict within USA:
Stephen Miller, Trump’s top immigration adviser, has publicly declared that they would pursue such an enormous effort partly by creating a private red-state army under the president’s command. Miller says a reelected Trump intends to requisition National Guard troops from sympathetic Republican-controlled states and then deploy them into Democratic-run states whose governors refuse to cooperate with their deportation drive.
Not to mention deporting as many people as he plans to would take a wrecking ball to the American economy.
Christofascist paramilitaries that forcibly deport, kill or otherwise incacerate people of a certain group? I bet the libs will just put up their hands and go "if we oppose them we're just as bad as them"
They're straight up planning to make concentration camps for immigrants. I mean, those basically exist already at ICE detention facilities, but this would be a huge expansion of that.
Dominionist paramilitaries immediately remind of the (harrowing) It Could Happen Here podcast.
Not trying to "start shit" but several people who run/work for that pod are actively antagonistic towards what they call "tankies." They often participate in borderline or straight up historical revisionism to paint communism as "not the Nazis, but not much better!"
People accuse the main guy of being a fed. I don't know. Everyone calls everyone a fed in leftist circles, but he does have a bit of an odd past with things like "war journalism" which is always sus to me.
Anyway, some of their episodes are good, and I'm certainly not the type to moralize media consumption. It just doesn't matter in the grand scheme. It really doesn't. Just hope people take stuff said on there and its sibling podcasts with a grain of salt. Especially regarding communist history like the USSR, Communist China, etc. Remember that the people delivering the info have a bias, as we all do. Theirs is pretty outwardly anti-statist, anti-centralization. You can see how that clashes with communism.
I also recall at some point people there shitting on Marxist theories which I just laughed at. Maybe it was a joke, I don't remember the full context, but modern anarkiddies shitting on Marx would make me laugh, serious or not.
Yeah I was mostly referring to the first 10 or so episodes when it first started when it painted a picture of what the 2nd American Civil War might look like, I haven't much listened to the more recent stuff that they have done.
And yeah I've also heard rumours of Evans being a fed. Apparently there was an instance where he interviewed a bunch of protesters (I think it was the ongoing Stop Cop City protest but I could be wrong) on video, and then shortly after that they all ended up behind bars like the next day. Also could have just been a total coincidence and they were likely going to be arrested anyway, who's to know.
These freaks couldn't organize breaking out of a wet paper bag. A handful of people start to shoot back and they'll run away pissing themselves.
BUT, the conflict and breach of the civil order will probably lead to further fractures.
As others have pointed out here, collapse is a process, not an event. But that being said, I think that if Trump gets reelected (which is almost inevitable at this point) his aggressive deportation plan might very well be a huge catalyst for inter-state conflict within USA:
Not to mention deporting as many people as he plans to would take a wrecking ball to the American economy.
Christofascist paramilitaries that forcibly deport, kill or otherwise incacerate people of a certain group? I bet the libs will just put up their hands and go "if we oppose them we're just as bad as them"
They're straight up planning to make concentration camps for immigrants. I mean, those basically exist already at ICE detention facilities, but this would be a huge expansion of that.
Dominionist paramilitaries immediately remind of the (harrowing) It Could Happen Here podcast.
Fed ass collapse porn podcast
but harrowing is a good word
What's awful is they'll do it unapposed, the libs will refuse to do anything
They’ll negotiate slightly softer pillows for the immigrants in the concentration camps.
Not trying to "start shit" but several people who run/work for that pod are actively antagonistic towards what they call "tankies." They often participate in borderline or straight up historical revisionism to paint communism as "not the Nazis, but not much better!"
People accuse the main guy of being a fed. I don't know. Everyone calls everyone a fed in leftist circles, but he does have a bit of an odd past with things like "war journalism" which is always sus to me.
Anyway, some of their episodes are good, and I'm certainly not the type to moralize media consumption. It just doesn't matter in the grand scheme. It really doesn't. Just hope people take stuff said on there and its sibling podcasts with a grain of salt. Especially regarding communist history like the USSR, Communist China, etc. Remember that the people delivering the info have a bias, as we all do. Theirs is pretty outwardly anti-statist, anti-centralization. You can see how that clashes with communism.
I also recall at some point people there shitting on Marxist theories which I just laughed at. Maybe it was a joke, I don't remember the full context, but modern anarkiddies shitting on Marx would make me laugh, serious or not.
Yeah I was mostly referring to the first 10 or so episodes when it first started when it painted a picture of what the 2nd American Civil War might look like, I haven't much listened to the more recent stuff that they have done.
And yeah I've also heard rumours of Evans being a fed. Apparently there was an instance where he interviewed a bunch of protesters (I think it was the ongoing Stop Cop City protest but I could be wrong) on video, and then shortly after that they all ended up behind bars like the next day. Also could have just been a total coincidence and they were likely going to be arrested anyway, who's to know.
These freaks couldn't organize breaking out of a wet paper bag. A handful of people start to shoot back and they'll run away pissing themselves. BUT, the conflict and breach of the civil order will probably lead to further fractures.