I've only been on this website for a short time so I know this looks sus im not trying to start arguments or something im just uncomfortable with something ive been seeing
ive been looking around and seeing things in posts and i would like to say that many of them make me very uncomfortable it is very common to see posts/topics idk that seem to be kind of glorifying revenge and hurting people disproportionately hatred for bourgoisie is justified but the people talking about and detailing torture make me really uncomfortable (saying things like detailing cruel and unusual punishments) because i have a hard time not involuntarily putting myself into the shoes of others even when they have nothing in common with me
ive been trying to tolerate it because i assumed this was part of what "dirtbag left" meant, being unapologetic and willing to advocate for things that are unappealing and not "civil" so become confused when people brought up the dumb will smith incident because it was just a slap, barely anything but lots of people seem to disapprove of it for being childish and immature i understand this viewpoint but i dont get why these two exist simultaneously i was starting to see the appeal of simply just advocating for "fuck around and find out" violence against the bourgoisie and nazis and obvious bigots but when the same principle is applied to others who are making ableist jokes it's bad
it comes across as people only caring and advocating for violence against people that affect them personally, and not people who affect others negatively i dont care about will smith (rich jerk) but i don't understand how that doesn't apply to me. why are people advocating for violence in ways that are arguably justifiable but make people uncomfortable just talking about them, but if i were to hit someone for making fun of me stimming or something that would be bad?
was all of the wall/torture/grenade pit stuff sarcastic or is the stance that its only ok to commit violence against people that affect the entire proletariat instead of just a part? (i know will smith probably isn't part of the proletariat i just don't understand how him being in the wrong doesn't also translate to proletariat members hitting people for making fun of them and family members and their own conditions)
i also don't know how to feel because a lot of the time it's very hard to control things that are considered violent actions i understand that as a general principle i should avoid them but in a situation like with the will smith thing (lots of people, someone making fun of someone i care about , probably lots of stress because award ceremony) i could see some kind of meltdown happening and me flipping out or doing something a lot worse, i know that's bad, and i avoid doing things like that but also lots of people have conditions that make that more likely so i have a hard time not sympthaziing. i also don't understand why making fun of someone to the point of self-harm or emotional harm is ok but hitting them isnt,, and in a world where nobody seems to care enough to actually help deescalate (and usually takes the side of harassers if they're "funny" enough) what else your even supposed to do? nobody taught me this and i wish they did
see, you're gettin in the weeds of it. this was a non event that play on peoples experiences as all social media becomes this bubbling cauldron of takes, counter takes, screams of lived experiences. a guy hit another guy he has known, personally, for years, and then he said sorry. don't take it as some huge point about ADHD, toxic masculinity on a societal level, and the legitimisation of violence for some things and not others. I can promise you,all you're going to find in this situation is irritation, anxiety, and people disagreeing with you who also think they're doing the right thing for social justice by having the take they do.
the best advice I can give is walk away from any talks about it, find something that destresses you, and try to have a nice day where you relax and don't let the anxiety get to you. and if you do want to engage in conversations about these things, don't do it via the lense of the hot topic of the week where people see everything through this warped paradigm of mass hot takes on a topic, talk about it in a space and time where people want to look at these things for what they are, not what tweet did they see first that framed the whole debate for them and you're bad because you disagree.
thank you im sorry i dont want to make anyone uncomfortable
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I can clearly see you're quite anxious about this, and there's nothing wrong with that. the things you feel are legitimate worries, it's just not productive to focus on them in such a charged situation where you will not get a fair discussion about them.