• Leftoid [none/use name]
    5·
    4 years ago

    you literally cannot dunk on me bro, im explaining someone else's perspective.

    • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
      ·
      4 years ago

      who's perspective is it? Do you believe, counter to the science, that humans are inherently selfish?

      • Leftoid [none/use name]
        9·
        4 years ago

        Science can get fucked, but in this case, yes, humans are inherently selfish...

        You really don't want my personal perspective on anything.

          • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
            ·
            4 years ago

            just wanna add that even hunter gatherers took care of people who couldn't contribute to their society btw. https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/82-humans-took-care-of-the-disabled-over-500-000-years-ago

            • StolenStalin [comrade/them,they/them]
              ·
              4 years ago

              Theres selecfive pressure to do so as well. Most of the time another organism needing help is temporary. After the need has passed others become able to help in return.

          • Leftoid [none/use name]
            6·
            4 years ago

            That would be collective self-interest....say when an in-group all decides the same thing.. Even then someone in that group might have intention to screw you over and you should be watching for such....

            • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
              ·
              4 years ago

              But you should be wise about who you are spending your effort watching to screw you over, right? Your boss or landlord is gonna screw you over 5000 times more often and more harshly than anyone without any money or power. So logically wouldn't you want to spend your time watching for attacks from the place they come most frequently from?

                • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
                  ·
                  4 years ago

                  So you admit that you are wrong but don't want to go after the people who are actually hurting you? That's kinda pathetic ngl

              • Leftoid [none/use name]
                1·
                4 years ago

                I have to be a little rude to get into it, but yes. I am familiar with material historical analysis, im also familiar with a number of other modes of historical analysis and i absolutely fucking never rely on just one.

        • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
          1·
          4 years ago

          Why can "science get fucked"? How else can we measure the world if not through rigorous, repeated testing?