That's the point. None of us are perfectly or even maximally moral. The idea is to be more moral when you can. By trying to make this an all-or-nothing question, you are setting yourself up to give up on morality as a whole, and become entirely self interested.
I won't debate this with you on philosophical grounds, but I will say that my advice on the most moral thing you could do right now is to stop fixating on this topic. Take a gentle, gradual approach, and ask yourself what small and simple things you could do to improve the lives of the people you care about. Somewhere down the road, you can start to broaden your scope.
i dont think my brain works that way. whenever i try to "take a break" from a concept like this i always just disconnect entirely and then find it again and the same thing happens. my brain just doesn't think of things in a way that isn't "optimal", it actually hurts to do "suboptimal" things. even the knowledge that eventually ill have to give up everything that gives me pleasure, but gradually, causes me anxiety, too. my thinking is too long term. i think it's just easier to "rip off the bandaid" so to speak but i guess whatever
Oh, I'm completely giving you advice that I would be terrible at accepting. It's only because I've gone through that sort of cycle so many times that I've been able to be aware of the problem, and sort-of-a-little-bit get better at dealing with it.
In my experience, there's some problems you can solve that way, and when it works, it can work really well. But there are some problems where it's just not right for the job. If you get caught in a cycle like that I try and remember that it's probably more useful to use the time to learn how to be adaptable in your approach and your thinking than it is to actually solve the problem.
yeah i think part of it is just "trust the process" combined with "you're not gonna be perfect" in retrospect, it's probably about as good of an idea to obsess over the definition of relaxation and stuff as it is to obsess over every line i make when drawing
after actually walking away for a bit i've realized this is the only time my anxiety has actually been encouraging me to be a better person so :thumb-cop: yay
kinda hope this stays around because its reminding me of my org meetings and stuff i normally have a hard time remembering (in the short time it's been a thing)
i cannot express how much of an improvement "utilitarianistic thirdworldism" is as a thing to worry about adhering to over the multitudes of random things my GAD brain comes up with
I totally get trying to manage "if I'm going to be stuck focusing somewhere, here's a better place than most". It just looked like it was starting to get away from you at some points in this thread.
Also, I wanted to say that if you have to let yourself "disconnect entirely" from something and come back to it, you're not completely starting over, some of it does stick around, even if it doesn't feel like it. That's especially true when you've found a healthier outlet.
That's the point. None of us are perfectly or even maximally moral. The idea is to be more moral when you can. By trying to make this an all-or-nothing question, you are setting yourself up to give up on morality as a whole, and become entirely self interested.
I won't debate this with you on philosophical grounds, but I will say that my advice on the most moral thing you could do right now is to stop fixating on this topic. Take a gentle, gradual approach, and ask yourself what small and simple things you could do to improve the lives of the people you care about. Somewhere down the road, you can start to broaden your scope.
ok
i dont think my brain works that way. whenever i try to "take a break" from a concept like this i always just disconnect entirely and then find it again and the same thing happens. my brain just doesn't think of things in a way that isn't "optimal", it actually hurts to do "suboptimal" things. even the knowledge that eventually ill have to give up everything that gives me pleasure, but gradually, causes me anxiety, too. my thinking is too long term. i think it's just easier to "rip off the bandaid" so to speak but i guess whatever
Oh, I'm completely giving you advice that I would be terrible at accepting. It's only because I've gone through that sort of cycle so many times that I've been able to be aware of the problem, and sort-of-a-little-bit get better at dealing with it.
In my experience, there's some problems you can solve that way, and when it works, it can work really well. But there are some problems where it's just not right for the job. If you get caught in a cycle like that I try and remember that it's probably more useful to use the time to learn how to be adaptable in your approach and your thinking than it is to actually solve the problem.
yeah i think part of it is just "trust the process" combined with "you're not gonna be perfect" in retrospect, it's probably about as good of an idea to obsess over the definition of relaxation and stuff as it is to obsess over every line i make when drawing
after actually walking away for a bit i've realized this is the only time my anxiety has actually been encouraging me to be a better person so :thumb-cop: yay
kinda hope this stays around because its reminding me of my org meetings and stuff i normally have a hard time remembering (in the short time it's been a thing)
i cannot express how much of an improvement "utilitarianistic thirdworldism" is as a thing to worry about adhering to over the multitudes of random things my GAD brain comes up with
I totally get trying to manage "if I'm going to be stuck focusing somewhere, here's a better place than most". It just looked like it was starting to get away from you at some points in this thread.
Also, I wanted to say that if you have to let yourself "disconnect entirely" from something and come back to it, you're not completely starting over, some of it does stick around, even if it doesn't feel like it. That's especially true when you've found a healthier outlet.