Something I see super regularly, and find really disturbing, is how a young person 25-35 will post something, or even say it in person, like "I really want to have kids with my partner and start a family, but I just can't feel safe doing that with how unstable the world it," and proceed to list all their super realistic concerns and fears. And immediately someone will chirp up with some variation of "no one promised you stability or safety! You need to make it on your own! Everyone finds a way to have kids." Like these people do realize this isn't like a one off phenomenon, like household formation and having children are at world historic and systemic lows. Do these people want society to stop? Like people wanting to have children is like the most normal thing in the world, and wanting some small measure of stability and safety seems the least anyone is entitled to.
It's just so ducking weird to see, cus so often these are the same people freaking out cus there aren't enough kids. I just don't fucking understand people. I dunno what I am asking I just need to vent because people fucking confuse me.
Well to be fair most of human history wasnt exactly a great time 2 have kids. I understand why you would want to be financially stable though.
Yeah but most of human history wasn't facing a scientifically provable and proven end of the world scenario within their life time. Maybe the end of their individual world, but not global collapse of civilization that is observable at the microlevel every day.
Plus there was no reliable contraception back then and people do like to fuck.
Lmfao. Your parents thought they would die in a nuclear hellscape.
Our parents weren’t most of human history.
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No they often were but there were also systems and scientific progress in place to get humanity out of every pickle they've been in. It's one of the more frustrating arguments to have is with die hard neoliberal Steven Pinker/David Deutsch stans that just claim that since we've gotten out of everything else in history so far then surely well make it out of every issue presently threatening is without an examination of how some efforts of the past did affect how life was lived and maybe certain threats aren't just going to be "oh some guy will take care of it while I continue living my life of luxury"