One ad is seemingly not for any party, just advising the public not to vote for the Liberal Party. Another ad is just black text on a white screen and a robotic voice saying that Andrea Horvath is corrupt and directing to a website.

Like literally the only normal campaign ad I've seen is for the NDP.

WTF is going on?

  • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Attack ads work, so they do them even if people say they don't like them. the NDP has an aversion to winning and actually doing even basic socdem shit, and are barely left of the Libs at this point. BUT I guess if this "totally not a coalition" coalition gets my prescriptions and optical/dental covered under OHIP at least thats a W.

  • Slaanesh [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Honestly the old hope Ontario has is if the NDP and Libs form a coalition before the election. Win, remove first past the post and then break up and continue winning for ever.

    I'm just trying to hedge bets on which 400 series gets sold first. Not enought private highway ownership in ontario.

  • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    It's also possible just private individuals are doing it. I know a shit ton of just random ass small business chuds were buying up ad space on their own dime all during the Trump administration, especially during both elections of course.

    Might just be some of that leaking over.

    • leredditor99 [he/him,none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Speaking of that, small business chuds in Ontario are truly the most insufferable. Always complaining because their crappy business isn't succeeding in capitalism. "Wahhh taxes too high, wahhh minimum wage too high I need slave-labour, 0 taxes and lots of grants to turn a profit!".

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Is Ontario usually more conservative? For some reason I always pictured it as being the California of Canada.

    • Fartbutt420 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The North has historically voted orange, smaller cities and Toronto flip orange/red, and the suburbs/exurbs around Toronto are solid blue. There is one green MPP in Guelph who's pretty tight.

      Edit: It's kind of all over the place. Decades of Progressive Conservative governments until the 80s, then Liberals and NDP each formed a government. The PCs with Mike Harris got in twice in the 90s and fucked it up spectacularly enough to usher in nearly 20 years of Liberals, until people decided they didn't like Katherine Wynne and voted in the dumbest asshole imaginable with the current government. The working class/ libertarian dudes up in the North tend to vote NDP, while the urban gentry and downtown pinkos tend to vote center-right Libs or succdem NDP. The key to the Tories last election is the 905 belt of suburbs around Toronto, which is populated by petty boug, recent immigrants from socially conservative countries, real-estate developers, and dudes who drive trucks (inclusive), who's only priorities are a) low taxes, b) more roads, and c) owning "downtown elitists". This is also the most rapidly-growing demographic/ area in the province, so it's vote-rich and necessary for anyone hoping to form government. Doug Ford was born directly out of their self-interested malice, the fetish for shitbird small-business tyrants everywhere, and also happens to be deep in the pockets of every slumlord developer who wants to pave the province with cardboard houses and 20-lane highways from Lake Ontario to Thunder Bay.

      • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        The biggest hurdle for the Ontario NDP is that they're still associated with Bob Rae. I'm a transplant from the prairies (c. 2005) and I've noticed that opinions on Bob Rae's administration are very clearly divided.

        • Fartbutt420 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I blame his continued unpopularity in no small part to the catchiness of "Rae Days" as a phrase. The fact that it was nearly 30 years ago and people still bring it up is absurd - especially since by any account Harris was much more destructive.

          At the moment, people have decided that Howarth is unpopular because she hasn't won after three elections (despite currently bringing the party to opposition). I've never heard a legit critique of her - just vague handwavings about how she doesn't do enough (despite hammering the gov every day, she never gets any press about it) or how she's a bad politician. She's toxic because people who would never vote NDP have declared her toxic.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    American here (sorry), sounds like you're getting the types of ads we get. They're often just very aggressive against one thing in particular with no stated policy agenda or party affiliation. I truly apologize and may god have mercy on us

  • D61 [any]
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    3 years ago

    Dark money ads maybe.

  • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Not Canadian (American, so close enough), and one of the big things that Republicans run on is "we're not democrats." Sure, they brag a lot, rightoids are narcissists after all.

    It's like high school peer pressure. They know they're the popular kids, and it's more of a threat. "If you associate with those nerds, you're a loser too and you're not cool like me! You want to stay accepted by society, don't you?"