Astrology brings out a different side of me cause my father was literally obsessed with it and owned a billion astrology books and constantly talked about his chart. I have no sense of it being frivolous, I’m just like, “ah yeah astrology the dork religion”— Big Joel (@biggestjoel) April 4, 2022
I know tons of dudes into astrology. I dislike it because I work at a place that attracts the worst new age hippie liberals well off enough to buy $500 worth of snake oil every month while going on about covid and 5g conspiracy shit. It's so deeply intertwined with the new age Q Brain people I loathe it. I think as an isolated thing it's mostly harmless but the overlap with those groups where I am and those groups overlap with weird eco-fascist shit has me kinda chalking it up to the other side of the coin to American esoteric fascism.
I want to reiterate that it is harmless in a vacuum and that the overwhelming majority of people are not the ones I am talking about, but there is definitely valid critiques of new age woo woo shit and how it fits into (or rather has been coopted into) American esoteric fascism.
People who really hate astrology tend to be annoying cis white “I fucking love science” guys, so therefore astrology must be stanned and anyone who finds it mildly annoying is just sexist, including women who find it mildly annoying g.
its brainworms from hermeticism, of which modern astrology is derived. tldr: men are a cosmic good, women are a cosmic evil. cosmic good and evil clash and understanding these forces is how you achieve true enlightenment. calling something 'feminine' can mean a lot in hermeticism and astrology as whole and it usually isnt a good thing, its basically shoplifted yin-yang
Technically, he says men are Order and Women are Chaos, and that you need both.
He then devotes writing to the fact that the world is too chaotic right now, and needs extra order to bring it back into balance. Also, if you call him on any of this, he'll retreat by saying, "Oh, I'm just talking about stories, the stories humans tell each other. Don't blame me for saying it, its the meaning behind what humans have been telling each other!"
So its hard to pin his specific beliefs down, or at least, to get him to admit it, as its pretty clear his 'vibe' is conservative Christian who desperately wants to think he's smart.
yeah hermeticism says that in everyone there is evil and good and that the only good thing is god and anything absent of god can be evil but men are more likely to have good in them for... reasons, usually ties in with christianity and how god created adam first
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I know tons of dudes into astrology. I dislike it because I work at a place that attracts the worst new age hippie liberals well off enough to buy $500 worth of snake oil every month while going on about covid and 5g conspiracy shit. It's so deeply intertwined with the new age Q Brain people I loathe it. I think as an isolated thing it's mostly harmless but the overlap with those groups where I am and those groups overlap with weird eco-fascist shit has me kinda chalking it up to the other side of the coin to American esoteric fascism.
I want to reiterate that it is harmless in a vacuum and that the overwhelming majority of people are not the ones I am talking about, but there is definitely valid critiques of new age woo woo shit and how it fits into (or rather has been coopted into) American esoteric fascism.
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If Protestantism has 1 million haters, I am one of them.
If Protestantism has 5 haters, I am one of them.
If Protestantism has 1 hater then that hater is me.
If Protestantism has no haters then I am no longer alive.
If the world is for Protestantism then I am against the world.
Until my last breath, I will hate Protestantism.
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Well that’s a good thing
Hating Catholics is just an excuse to hate Irish and Italian people
:anti-italian-action: :solidarity: :ira:
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Please elaborate.
People who really hate astrology tend to be annoying cis white “I fucking love science” guys, so therefore astrology must be stanned and anyone who finds it mildly annoying is just sexist, including women who find it mildly annoying g.
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I mean it seems he hates it cuz his dad was a massive astrology weirdo. Unless his dad was secretly trans I think that complicated things.
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I don’t see how astrology is inherently feminine, one of the biggest astrology weirdos I’ve ever known was literally a frat boy.
Also idk who the fuck Joel’s dad is but it seems weird to assume he was “fem-leaning” whatever that means.
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its brainworms from hermeticism, of which modern astrology is derived. tldr: men are a cosmic good, women are a cosmic evil. cosmic good and evil clash and understanding these forces is how you achieve true enlightenment. calling something 'feminine' can mean a lot in hermeticism and astrology as whole and it usually isnt a good thing, its basically shoplifted yin-yang
Isn't this what Jordan Peterson unironically believes? Feminine chaos dragons and lobsters and all that?
Technically, he says men are Order and Women are Chaos, and that you need both.
He then devotes writing to the fact that the world is too chaotic right now, and needs extra order to bring it back into balance. Also, if you call him on any of this, he'll retreat by saying, "Oh, I'm just talking about stories, the stories humans tell each other. Don't blame me for saying it, its the meaning behind what humans have been telling each other!"
So its hard to pin his specific beliefs down, or at least, to get him to admit it, as its pretty clear his 'vibe' is conservative Christian who desperately wants to think he's smart.
yeah hermeticism says that in everyone there is evil and good and that the only good thing is god and anything absent of god can be evil but men are more likely to have good in them for... reasons, usually ties in with christianity and how god created adam first
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