For some context, this was a :reddit-logo: thread talking about old dnd settings and whether or not they should bring Kara-Tur back. There were plenty of shitty racist takes in the thread, but comparing the existence of christianity in europe to the brutality that african/asian/south american countries experienced during colonialism seemed especially bad.

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    calling the Irish colonised is a touchy one (and something I wrote a whole ass long post about on here). it's of those things where it's not a binary either or, but a spectrum. and some people got a much worse end of that. much like we all know "the Irish were slaves too" misses out a LOTTA context on chattle slavery vs indentured servitude, the same is true of the Celtic home nations and their genocides and cultural destruction vs that of different native peoples. Ireland never faced what the native peoples of North America did, and often profited from it in the way the oppressed working classes of Europe always have from imperial spoils.

    and on the Roman point. Settler Colonialism is nowhere near the same as the Roman colonies. the Romans engaged in Empire, genocide, settling, and all this, this is true. However, to overlook the sheer horror and genuinely incalculable destruction of settler colonialisn down plays the viciousness of the ideology and how its structures were far more genocidal, extractive of labour and resouces, and how the European settler colonist sees the new land as their God given right as opposed to the naked but honest 'might makes right' of the Romans

    • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      acting as though Roman and 14th-20th century European colonialism are equal historical, and contemporary, horrors seeks the centre whiteness and downplay the genocide and ideology of settler colonialism that is very alive and well