orban likes china because he thinks it's a well run, rich, illiberal state that gets shit done. he wants some of that sweet chinese money. he also wants that sweet EU money.
he wants to belong to every bloc but none, so he can fish around in the confusion.
at least that's what i think he's trying to do...
but yeah, orban's opposition (standard eurolibs) threw a massive tantrum about it.
It’s very funny that military alliances are basically permanent during peace time. You can’t kick someone out without the risk of them going with your enemies, so you just have a bunch of grifters playing both sides
he wants to belong to every bloc but none, so he can fish around in the confusion.
I don't like the guy but I can kind of repsect that..... although you'd think it would make him look like a fence-sitter with his hardcore fascist fans (though they'd likely protest and vote for Mi Hazánk won't they?).
yeah, protest votes of that sort go to his tame nazis.
also, i dunno if they see it as fence sitting. could be that they see it as standing for an independent hungary. if you think hungary is a sovereign thing on its own, it's not fence sitting to make deals with all sides.
now, yes, thinking of hungary as anything other than a fascist assembly machine for the german industry is hilarious, but hungarians have been nurtured on "no more empire" idiocy for a hundred years now...
you think the injured "pride" of "no more empire" english people is bad? imagine the same thing but shittier, more pathetic and without ever having had an empire...
kinda, yeah. although they also resent austria for ruling us. it's stolen valor BUT also we're the poor oppressed, first by austria, then by russia, then by brussels, ... ... ...
orban likes china because he thinks it's a well run, rich, illiberal state that gets shit done. he wants some of that sweet chinese money. he also wants that sweet EU money.
he wants to belong to every bloc but none, so he can fish around in the confusion.
at least that's what i think he's trying to do...
but yeah, orban's opposition (standard eurolibs) threw a massive tantrum about it.
It’s very funny that military alliances are basically permanent during peace time. You can’t kick someone out without the risk of them going with your enemies, so you just have a bunch of grifters playing both sides
I don't like the guy but I can kind of repsect that..... although you'd think it would make him look like a fence-sitter with his hardcore fascist fans (though they'd likely protest and vote for Mi Hazánk won't they?).
yeah, protest votes of that sort go to his tame nazis.
also, i dunno if they see it as fence sitting. could be that they see it as standing for an independent hungary. if you think hungary is a sovereign thing on its own, it's not fence sitting to make deals with all sides.
now, yes, thinking of hungary as anything other than a fascist assembly machine for the german industry is hilarious, but hungarians have been nurtured on "no more empire" idiocy for a hundred years now...
you think the injured "pride" of "no more empire" english people is bad? imagine the same thing but shittier, more pathetic and without ever having had an empire...
Becoming Second rate partners in a shitty Austrian empire because of a bourgeois hissy fit makes them think they had an empire?
pathetic.
kinda, yeah. although they also resent austria for ruling us. it's stolen valor BUT also we're the poor oppressed, first by austria, then by russia, then by brussels, ... ... ...