Sanders's lost disillusioned us all in some way, but even now you can still see some people hooting for CTH to insert itself into the conversation about every left-ish movement. And I feel like among these people, only a small number believes that CTH has some kind of big, real-world impact. The majority just want to hear the hosts' takes and make it their own takes. They are relying on CTH to think for themselves. I just want to ask these people why do they take the podcast this serious, especially after they have been wrong many times.

    • Vncredleader
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      2 years ago

      TBF I am pretty sure Felix once said Bernie was our off-ramp to a quieter destruction. Which I disagree with, but I kinda get the point that Bernie had the potential to scuttle the ship with fewer nukes. As Bernie turns hard into the dem party line the more I doubt this. Though they did say a few eps ago that they where wrong about Bernie, took them way too long, but a few seem to think the campaign was weaker than they had previously thought. The other day they said something angrily about how Bernie has sold their contact info off to every fascist liberal hawk and it wasnt in a very joking manner.

      I wasn't involved back then, but I cant get over how much better the 2016 campaign seems to have been

        • Vncredleader
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          2 years ago

          Yeah the avoid criticizing opponents thing is part of why I didn't volunteer. I still think I should've for the experience, but it gave serious pause. West set up a party for him and he really should have taken it, as it stands any BS "insurgent" energy is not only gone, but sold off to the dems. Even thoroughly infiltrated CPUSA was more useful in the 1980s as it at least was outside of and not beholden to the DNC. Bernie was a unique once in a generation opportunity, not for change but for at least organizing something, and it was all squandered.

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is why they’re wrong . Bernie wasn’t the “last off ramp to destruction.”

      Recently, they updated to being Gaddafist and are hoping for an officer coup :admiral-biederman: :gaddafi-happy:

    • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      This is why they’re wrong . Bernie wasn’t the “last off ramp to destruction.” He would have governed fairly similar to Biden, which you can tell since he keeps pretty quiet on criticizing his “good friend” and because he wouldn’t have had the political capital to do anything worthwhile anyway.

      Agreed, Bernie would have many similarities to Biden. Also, the closer we get to any concession, the resistance from Capital would increase. Any off ramp to destruction would inherently lead us closer to the same destruction we are trying to avoid. My opinion, revolution is a mind fuck but the only path out.