https://twitter.com/florencegaub/status/1514152917556727813?s=21&t=VSAV8PhJipQ5C94DEJGI6Q Whenever I see a big EU flag and Germany flag in the bio, Brace Belden’s 4th Reich theory just come to my mind. And I stopped reading at “Let me explain”

  • Krem [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is beautiful. 4/5 "West/south asian" countries are in southeast asia and are similar to israel, value-wise. Group them together!

    India, which you might think is south asian, maybe even THE south asian country, maybe even the origin of much of south asian culture and religion, and thus values, is ACTUALLY valually African-islamic.

    Yes, I'm sure you're all familiar with "African-islamic" values.

    By some coincidence, the home countries of most of the people peddling this logical superscience are in the cool and awesome top right corner. It just happens that their countries are logical and liberal and chill, values-wise.

    edit: whilst showering i got even madder about this. what kind of distinction is "traditional" vs. "secular" anyway? The confucian countries are ranked very high on the secular scale, but actual confucian values are really traditional (marriage between man and woman, a couple needs to produce male offspring for the family, the husband is the head of the household, if dad is out then oldest son takes charge) but since they don't necessarily mention a god, that means they're "secular" and thus the opposite of "traditional"?

    protestant europe could be renamed secular europe, because no one in northern europe goes to church, and by the way isn't germany and switzerland mostly catholic anyway?

    and then we have the "anglosphere" values category.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      what kind of distinction is “traditional” vs. “secular” anyway?

      It's a complete asspull. the tradition <-> secular axis is supposed to measure influence of religion on values, but the questionaire they tried to measure these values with focusses mostly on issues that are controversial in christianity, and to a lesser extend islam and judaism - divorce, suicide, abortion. but not LGBT rights, that's part of the survival <-> self expression axis, because you can only gay when your basic needs like food and shelter are already met, otherwise you don't gay. That may sound confusing now, but it makes even less sense when you read up on it.

      This is ofc incredibly dumb and produces completely useless results, so they covered that up by just painting these colorful amorphous blobs for different cultures over their graph. The blobs are amorphous so the colors only have to align remotely with the actual placement on the graph. It's bullshit all the way down.

      • Krem [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        wow, so it's a test where questions in a questionnaire adjusts your position on one of the axes, and then you use both axes to chart your position in an cute little spectrum, and then conclusions were drawn based on these positions without any material analysis? reminds me of something...

        also a quick look at previous editions of this thing, where countries are in completely different positions, kinda makes this look a little bullshitty somehow. india is right in the middle in 2017 but I guess Modi made the whole country jump to the bottom left huh

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          yeah it's honestly kind of fascinating how ... fractal the horseshit is with this one. as if you can zoom in indefintiely and constantly discover new layers of ass-pulls, smokescreens, data massaging and completely random results that do not lead to anything.