• thisismyrealname [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    jake hanrahan downplays azov's influence in this one a bit, bit suspicious to me

    like sure, azov might not be an influential political party but it's still pretty bad if you have an explicitly fascist regiment of your army

    anyway, the takeaway for me from this video is just how horrifying the experience of being a refugee is. i feel fucking awful living in the US seeing how these peoples' lives are just completely upended, especially knowing that my government is doing the same shit or worse to dozens of nations

    • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The juxtaposition of him saying that Russia has a bigger Nazi problem because their Nazis might have connections to the FSB while talking about Azov, an official battalion, is incredibly sus.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      yeah lmao the fact that they just happened to find a recruiting poster for neofascists on the wall should prove that they're not a nonentity. the US has plenty of white nationalists and it's still pretty rare to see their propaganda

      • invo_rt [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The march in the footage cut in was pretty big too. Also I saw the footage from Oliver Stone's documentary in 2016 and the fash torch marches looked pretty fucking big. It isn't every Ukrainian, obviously, but it seems like there are a fair number of sympathizers not just in azov, but in other groups like svoboda, right sector, and trident.

        • drinkinglakewater [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I think people tend to fixate on Azov since it's the most obvious example but the problem goes all the way back to OUN and Ukrainian nationalism being entwined with fascism for basically the country's entire history. Much like how US fascism is present culturally and institutionally, the problem is not one explicit battalion but an idea baked into modern Ukrainian society broadly.

    • drinkinglakewater [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah I think a more on point Channel 5 video would've interrogated the Azov point a little more (and feature the anarchists for more than like 2 minutes), but I assume being in a foreign war zone limits how much they can look into things