• NomadicWarMachine [any]
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    3 years ago

    Sweet, maybe they can sell it all to China to make sick solar batteries, that they can sell back to Latin America so they can make their infrastructure sustainable, then America gets pissed and tries to invade the whole continent but is such a fucking dysfunctional shit show that they fail miserably and Balkanize as a result of the unpopular war.

    Idk, maybe over doing it on the infra-materialism here :lt-dbyf-dubois:

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think Bolivia is teying to build some factories themselves.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          IIRC those phosphate reserves are mostly in Western Sahara, where Morocco is an occupying colonial power every bit as bad as the US or Israel.

          • CTHlurker [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            More accurately, the phosphate is in the seabed a few miles from Western Sahara. Now I may be biased, since I know a lot of moroccans and have heard very few Sarawi / West Saharans give their take, but the claim that Morocco makes is that the area is empty desert now, but it used to be a part of the Greater Morocco and Morocco only really lost control of it due to colonialism by Spain and France, since they were the ones partioning the inhabited part of morocco from Western Sahara.

            • star_wraith [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              A recent episode of Cosmopod has a great interview with a Sarawi activist. The area is not an empty desert though obviously it's got a low population density. The connections to Morocco seem to be based more on like "some king in the 18th century pledged loyalty to the Moroccan royalty" or whatever and not at all based on what the Sarawi people wanted, which is unequivocally to be independent of Morocco. Morocco has also engaged in settler colonialism and has been moving Moroccans into the area for decades. Not that the UN is all that good but they've been firmly on the side of the Sawari people for a long time, as has most of the international community (the actual international community, not just the "international community = NATO" jokes we make here).

              That said, similar to other colonial holdings it's the Moroccan royalty and the capitalists that benefit, not the Moroccan people.

              • CTHlurker [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I don't really understand your final point. Morocco is a monarchy with a quasi-constitionunal government. Obviously most things in the country benefits the royals and their cronies, since that is literally the point of feudal hierachies. A lot of Moroccans do seem to be under the impression that if the demand for the phosphate rose as predicted, then the entire nation is going to be better off. And to his credit, the king does seem less shortsighted than many of the Arab royal-houses, since he alledgedly got scared during the Arab spring and started building a shitload of public housing / infrastructure in the poor parts of the country.

                • star_wraith [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Regarding that last point I made... go back to 19th century England. The colonial empire Britain had meant tons of raw materials could be manufactured cheaply in British factories. This brought immense wealth to the British capitalists. And yes, a not insignificant amount of that wealth did eventually reach the hands of British workers. With the colonial profits pouring in, they were able to push for higher wages. And higher tax revenues to the government did allow for better public works, etc. But it came at the cost exploiting the colonized and their resources. No different from modern-day US. Workers here benefit significantly from US imperialism, especially with cheap goods lowering the real wage. The US capitalists benefit the most from imperialism, but US workers benefit as well. At the cost of the working class in the global south.

                  To be blunt, I don't care if the king uses some of the phosphate money to pay off the Moroccan working class. It is not their phosphate, period. The Sarawi people do not want to be a part of Morocco. This is just straight up colonial exploitation. Spain, as the former colonizer, did have obligations they ignored; there is plenty of blood on their hands. The decolonization process is supposed to allow the former colonized to stand on their own feet. Instead they just up and left one day, which left the Sarawi completely helpless against a Moroccan invasion.

                  Idk, it seems pretty straightforward to me. The Sarawi people were colonized by Spain against their will. They wanted freedom from colonial rule and self a determination as is the right of all formerly colonized people and instead they just got re-colonized by a neighbor thanks to Spain's indifference.