What I love about this is you get to the bottom of what would be a cesspool on :reddit-logo: and instead of hell, we get this comradely mutual recognition.
I agree it's cool to get this mutual recognition, but I also wish we could call people out for using language that actually hurts to see without that kind of defensive response
Just, how many people have to tell you it makes them uncomfortable for that to outweigh that you want to say it? Why should we be expected to put up with that because other phrases just don't have the tone you're trying to express?
And come on, cocksucker is not a common insult like idiot. It's already beyond the pale for a lot of people. And can you honestly not see why? You genuinely don't see the misogynistic and homophobic subtext here? Your earlier "that's not how invective works" comment for when people pointed this out is shit I've heard people say about slurs, for god's sake, can you apply just a bit more critical thinking to this?
You don't see the misogynistic and homophobic subtext of "you suck cocks, and that's a bad thing"?
I'm asking you as a comrade. This makes a lot of us uncomfortable and there are myriad ways you can express the same thing. It makes the space much less hostile for so many of us if you would just choose a different word and especially if you don't double down like this. Is saying that word truly so important to you?
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What I love about this is you get to the bottom of what would be a cesspool on :reddit-logo: and instead of hell, we get this comradely mutual recognition.
Everyone in the thread gets a :gold-communist:
I agree it's cool to get this mutual recognition, but I also wish we could call people out for using language that actually hurts to see without that kind of defensive response
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Just, how many people have to tell you it makes them uncomfortable for that to outweigh that you want to say it? Why should we be expected to put up with that because other phrases just don't have the tone you're trying to express?
And come on, cocksucker is not a common insult like idiot. It's already beyond the pale for a lot of people. And can you honestly not see why? You genuinely don't see the misogynistic and homophobic subtext here? Your earlier "that's not how invective works" comment for when people pointed this out is shit I've heard people say about slurs, for god's sake, can you apply just a bit more critical thinking to this?
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You don't see the misogynistic and homophobic subtext of "you suck cocks, and that's a bad thing"?
I'm asking you as a comrade. This makes a lot of us uncomfortable and there are myriad ways you can express the same thing. It makes the space much less hostile for so many of us if you would just choose a different word and especially if you don't double down like this. Is saying that word truly so important to you?
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The hoops you're jumping through to pretend that's not the obvious subtext or that this is a super commmon insult are unreal
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