• Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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    3 years ago

    I think your critiques are valid (except for the whole "Snoke dies immediately" thing, I loved that). The hyperspace kamikaze thing especially bothered me- there are such huge world building implications of that which the writers didn't seem to realize. Like, if this is possible, it should be the dominant military tactic. Like they should have missiles that are basically just hyperdrives and not bother with turbolasers at all.

    But really, most of those critiques didn't bother me enough to really impact my enjoyment of the movie. I'm so starved for Star Wars media that is willing to critique the Jedi even just a little bit that when I get a work where that's a main theme, I jump on it- KOTOR2 is my favorite piece of Star Wars media, which you could probably guess. Otherwise, I have to settle for, at best, extremely heavy implications that, half the time, I'm not sure the writer even intended to be present, like in Clone Wars (and I love some parts of Clone Wars, don't get me wrong). Star Wars as a universe is so stale when the Jedi are just heros and so much more interesting when in the hands of people who realize how fucked they are.

    That's also why I find the awful, awful, extremely terrible execution of the prequels so frustrating, because I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be a big part of the point, like the Jedi were sowing the seeds of their own destruction. But those movies were so bad that even I can't overlook it.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      That's fair, I do know a lot of people liked it.

      I think a big part of my personal lack of enjoyment of the sequels is that, during the prequels, I just decided to appreciate the spectacle, which was fantastic (since as you note and I agree the prequels' execution was really slipshod). And it was one of the things they did decently, the ludicrous set piece moments

      The sequels tried to be more about world building and narrative experience rather than over the top fight sequences, which was and still is a bit jarring to me; it doesn't help that each movie felt like it was trying to be something completely different from the others due to different directors and production staff wanting to do their own things