• Theblarglereflargle [any]
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    2 years ago

    Once again 70% of Bernie supporters voted for Clinton. The largest decrease in votes came from POC not showing up in 2016 because they rightfully didn’t feel like anyone was looking out for them.

    So when libs say this shit they are just shitting on the poor and POC

  • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    LMAO and besides, what would Hillary even do? She described black people as super predators who should be "brought to heel."

    She wasn't going to pack the court or make rbg step down. She wasn't going to make anything safer during the pandemic.

    Fuck they wouldn't even fight to get Merrick Garland confirmed. What would Hillary have done aside from continuing her Elizabeth Holmes grift but in a pantsuit?

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      RBG might've stepped down for a white woman instead of a black man, just saying. I agree with you on everyone else.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      Hillary Rodham Clinton straight up mused about building a border wall between the US and Mexico.

      • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Hillary Clinton realized she didn't find a Death Note when she wrote the names of the Central Park Five and nothing happened.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's so weird to think that swing state nonvoters are rando media figures and "bernie bros" who spend all day on Twitter, rather than people on the margins of society who have been repeatedly let down by their government and largely don't participate in political discourse.

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    She won the popular vote! Show me you don't understand the US Presidential Election without telling me you don't understand the US Presidential Election.

    • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      How much harder do they expect people to vote. They couldn't keep their end of the deal where if you voted, they would make sure to honor that.

      They just passed the buck onto the electoral college and told everyone cry about it instead of putting the media and all of the government's resources behind acting on the will of the people (willing to vote)

      They said states rights mattered more than the popular vote and get upset when you act like that fact is true.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Me - little brain: "Maybe she should have campaigned differently. To, you know, win in the electoral college because that's all that matters."

      Redditor in r/politics sitting on his own couch-sized brain: "See!"

  • ekjp [any]
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    1 year ago

    deleted by creator

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    almost like ginsburg should have fucking retired under obama

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I think most Americans believe the country operates by collective psychic manifestations. The government works on vibes. There isn't enough liberal aether floating in the troposphere because us dirty leftists are poisoning it with bad energies. A coworker of mine once blamed our workplace's sensitivity training on the Democrats, when Trump was in office and our state has had Republican rule for over 20 years. It doesn't matter. Every chud in my family blamed Trump's failures to keep his promises on Democrats, even when he had a majority in the house, senate, and court. They were blaming public sentiment and magical clouds of liberal celestial energies, not actual seats in government or money.

    It's all just vibes, the votes don't matter.

    • Leper_Messiah [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      i lived in PA during 2016, a state trump won by like 40k votes

      i voted for staying home and getting high instead of standing in line and being surrounded by hooting chuds for 4 hours, and i'd do it again

  • D61 [any]
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    2 years ago

    screams in Dave Anthony voice

    YOUR TEAM WON, DAVID CORN! YOUR FUCKING TEAM WON, ALREADY!

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      What I love about Corn is this...

      DC bureau chief of Mother Jones

      He's supposed to cover DC and sometimes he actually does but DC stuff is boring and he surely doesn't get the engagement he cravens. So he's always tweeting or talking about Trump. It helps Corn build his brand so that he can be on tv more so that he can sell more books so he can build his brand so he can be on tv more so...

  • ajouter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    even if hillary won in 2016 the republicans still had the senate. It would have made no difference. In 2022 the dems have the house, senate and presidency and refuse to do anything. In 2009 they had a supermajority and refused to do anything. But yeah totally the fault of people who didnt vote for hillary in 2016.

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    2 years ago

    I'm getting so much of this right now from friends who know I'm a communist, who agree that Biden and Obama were just as bad as Trump on things like immigration, and admit that organizing makes more of a difference than voting. But they still act like my rejection of the lesser evil is a complete endorsement of the Republican platform. "People's lives are at stake!" Yeah, I fucking know. That's why we need to fight against this bullshit. Fuck.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      “People’s lives are at stake!”

      I wish I had something to share that I think would work. But I've spent years arguing with liberals at r/politics and I've gotten nowhere. Most of them seem to finally grok that there are no "noble" republicans. But I fear most of them have the same moronic four letter word solution to everything: vote.

      • Wertheimer [any]
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        2 years ago

        If every election is the Most Important of our Lifetimes, no one ever has to take the long view. And so I get to have the same exhausting conversation every two years.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          every election is the Most Important of our Lifetimes

          That concept drive me insane. What can we do???

    • Wertheimer [any]
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      2 years ago

      Like, I'm not even trying to convince some of these people because I know it's hopeless. But they act like my position is completely beyond understanding and I start to wonder if I've been speaking gibberish all these years.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    Hillary losing in 2016 was the best thing to ever happen to this country. The only problem was that she lost to the wrong candidate.

  • boffa [ey/em,e/em/eir]
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    2 years ago

    The reason we shouldn't nominate Hillary is because then too many progressives wouldn't vote for her.

    This just sounds an awful lot like the nature of voting. Wasn't the reason we couldn't nominate Bernie because too many moderates wouldn't vote for him? Yep sounds like you had an election there chief