• voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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    3 years ago

    No venue in the world tolerates that shit for long.

    Which is a reason to ask someone to leave, not a reason to lock them away. The (eventual) charge then might be trespassing.

    FFS, we’re approaching “Uighur Genocide” levels of insincerity.

    The criminal injustice system is an unjustifiable, oppressive system of cruelty and abuse. There is nothing insincere about that. Educate yourself.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Which is a reason to ask someone to leave, not a reason to lock them away.

      It's a reason to kick them out. And if they fight you, a reason to put them somewhere in which they can't continue to lash out in reckless anger.

      The criminal injustice system is an unjustifiable

      Capitalism is unjustifiable.

      A criminal justice system is both necessary and good.

      • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        It’s a reason to kick them out.

        Yes, but that can be handled by the venue. There's no reason at all for a specific law for someone just getting on stage and interrupting things, if they get violent there are already laws for that.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          3 years ago

          Yes, but that can be handled by the venue.

          God, no. The last fucking thing I want is some mall cop putting you in a private sector black site.

          There’s no reason at all for a specific law for someone just getting on stage and interrupting things

          The legal code is a bureaucratic clusterfuck and needs to be dismantled, rewritten, and ratified by a People's Government. But I wouldn't be surprised if people still consider jumping on top of a guy in the middle of a speech a crime.

          • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            My point is that jumping someone is obviously different from just getting on stage and interupting things. I've been performing on stage regularly for like 25 years now, so I feel like I have at least some insight into how shit actually works .

            And under a People's Government there hopefully would be neither mall cops nor private sector black sites.

      • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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        3 years ago

        It’s a reason to kick them out. And if they fight you, a reason to put them somewhere in which they can’t continue to lash out in reckless anger.

        "Put them somewhere." 🙄 Anyway, you're ignoring, again, that "unauthorized access to the stage area" and "commission of an act that delays an event or interferes with a performer" are absolutely ridiculous things for there to be actual criminal laws against.

        Capitalism is unjustifiable.

        No kidding.

        A criminal justice system is both necessary and good.

        OK bootlicker.

        You should be ashamed of yourself for helping to whitewash and apologize for the history of policing. Your façade of "opposing capitalism" is betrayed by any actual philosophy that appears when you scratch the surface of what you actually advocate for in material reality. I'm not going to continue this exchange with you, as it's a waste of time and energy. See ya around (or, hopefully, not).