Go back to your safe space if you can't handle it, Dave
unauthorized access to the stage area during a performance and commission of an act that delays an event or interferes with a performer.
Wait, what the fucking hell? These are crimes?!
Another great example of how definitely non-authoritarian the US is.
Eh. Absent context, people just rushing a stage is, uh, maybe kinda bad?
More "night in the drunk tank" bad than "fifty years at Rickers" bad. But since we don't do nuance in the legal system anymore and the dude who rushed the stage could afford a lawyer, the DA isn't going to waste time on a defendant that can fight back.
That's not authoritarianism, its class privilege.
Bad because you went where people didn't want you to go? Bad because a performance is interrupted?
Oh, give me a break. If there is a credible reason to believe someone was being violently threatened, that's one thing. Simply inconveniencing people is not a fucking crime under any sane notion of the concept.
"Night in the drunk tank" is also a shitty and authoritarian thing, with a history of actually causing real harm to poor and racially marginalized people. Whitewashing it by reinforcing the notion it is just giving people a safe place to "sleep it off" is not cool. Ever actually been in jail?
Bad because you went where people didn’t want you to go? Bad because a performance is interrupted?
Yes. Take Chappelle and the MAGA guy out of it for a second, and its just aggressive heckling. No venue in the world tolerates that shit for long.
If there is a credible reason to believe someone was being violently threatened
You don't even need that much. If this was a fucking DSA meeting and some guy bodied the host for talking shit about national political figure, nobody here would blink at tossing the wrecker's ass to the curb.
“Night in the drunk tank” is also a shitty and authoritarian thing, with a history of actually causing real harm to poor and racially marginalized people.
FFS, we're approaching "Uighur Genocide" levels of insincerity.
No venue in the world tolerates that shit for long.
Which is a reason to ask someone to leave, not a reason to lock them away. The (eventual) charge then might be trespassing.
FFS, we’re approaching “Uighur Genocide” levels of insincerity.
The criminal injustice system is an unjustifiable, oppressive system of cruelty and abuse. There is nothing insincere about that. Educate yourself.
Which is a reason to ask someone to leave, not a reason to lock them away.
It's a reason to kick them out. And if they fight you, a reason to put them somewhere in which they can't continue to lash out in reckless anger.
The criminal injustice system is an unjustifiable
Capitalism is unjustifiable.
A criminal justice system is both necessary and good.
It’s a reason to kick them out.
Yes, but that can be handled by the venue. There's no reason at all for a specific law for someone just getting on stage and interrupting things, if they get violent there are already laws for that.
Yes, but that can be handled by the venue.
God, no. The last fucking thing I want is some mall cop putting you in a private sector black site.
There’s no reason at all for a specific law for someone just getting on stage and interrupting things
The legal code is a bureaucratic clusterfuck and needs to be dismantled, rewritten, and ratified by a People's Government. But I wouldn't be surprised if people still consider jumping on top of a guy in the middle of a speech a crime.
My point is that jumping someone is obviously different from just getting on stage and interupting things. I've been performing on stage regularly for like 25 years now, so I feel like I have at least some insight into how shit actually works .
And under a People's Government there hopefully would be neither mall cops nor private sector black sites.
It’s a reason to kick them out. And if they fight you, a reason to put them somewhere in which they can’t continue to lash out in reckless anger.
"Put them somewhere." 🙄 Anyway, you're ignoring, again, that "unauthorized access to the stage area" and "commission of an act that delays an event or interferes with a performer" are absolutely ridiculous things for there to be actual criminal laws against.
Capitalism is unjustifiable.
No kidding.
A criminal justice system is both necessary and good.
OK bootlicker.
You should be ashamed of yourself for helping to whitewash and apologize for the history of policing. Your façade of "opposing capitalism" is betrayed by any actual philosophy that appears when you scratch the surface of what you actually advocate for in material reality. I'm not going to continue this exchange with you, as it's a waste of time and energy. See ya around (or, hopefully, not).
More about the security detail assaulting the assailant outside of their legal scope.
Him and his security nearly killed the poor bastard, why the fuck does he need to sue for? You won Dave, quit being a blood thristy chud
This is a terrible precedent to set. What if he had a knife or a gun?!
What then?
spoiler
:sicko-laser:
Dude was apparently a MAGA guy angry at Chappelle doing Cheeto Man Bad.
But all I can say to that is Let Them Fight.
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Has it been confirmed that transphobia was the motive for the attacker? This whole situation seems weird.
I regret to inform you all that the guy who punched Chappelle is also a chud. He released a song in 2020 titled MAGA with the lyrics, "Why is everyone always hating on my president?"
chud warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlbHSgL11HU&list=OLAK5uy_lfOv4X4T9Yw0NEGMIf8qh0i6v_5ZLkOCY&index=7
It's all guesswork, the attacker hasn't said anything about his motives so far. Assuming this was in retalliation to Chapelle's constant transphobia is just that, an assumption. Note that Chapelle's immediate reaction to getting tackled was labeling the attacker as a trans man in spite of not knowing anything about him. I love to see that a transphobe gets ... well, at least mildly inconvenienced for once, but let's keep in mind that transphobes are just shitty people in general and may get punched for other things than their transphobia. I have yet to see evidence for a credible threat to these assholes, for a "cancel culture" that goes "too far". For the time being, even though i'd love to be proven wrong on this one, i'll continue to assume that there is, in fact, no such thing as a leftist cancel culture posing a threat to TERFs and other reactionaries, but that this "cancel culture", at least in that form, only exists in the chuds' self-victimizing imagination.
im not understanding what the title has to do with the article…. which one is the transphobe ?
Trans people getting killed every year no one bats an eye.
Millionaire terf comedian gets pushed on stage with no serious injuries and it’s “praying for his safety.”
I'd like to see a law on the books to protect the people enforcing the "find out" side of the "fuck around" equation.
