I don't know if IV is different from snorted but I didn't experience is as being much like painkiller. You can still feel everything, you just don't care. it also distorted... umm... you know how, sometimes, you become aware of yourself thinking? That got really intense, like I was thinking about myself thinking about myself thinking about myself thinking about myself until it felt like I was stuck in this totally stable, motionless, endless place. I could still carry on reasonably coherent conversations, like I was still awake, just not aware if that makes sense? idk it's profoundly fucking weird.
I experienced no desire to do more right away. It was strange, and not unpleasant, but there was no euphoria or rush or ecstatic feeling. Once most of the effect wore off it... made me feel like I had the balance issues of being drunk, while my mind was clear and alert. Like, I could carry on a conversation without any trouble, but I needed to look where I was going to walk or sit down and pay attention to my balance and my feet. That lasted for several hours, though I usually went to sleep as soon as I got home so I don't know how long it took to wear off.
I would do it again if I could do it safely. It was just such an experience, like seeing the ocean or looking off the edge of a very tall building, or diving in to the water. There wasn't anything euphoric or ecstatic about it, but it was such a wildly different experience from normal perception that it was interesting in and of itself. It paired really well with music. And it was good for introspection, I felt like I had a vast span of time to think about myself and reflect on memories and events in my life.
It was very different from shrooms. I found shrooms really made colors stand out and become, like, not more vivid, but I was extremely aware of the different between each hue and shade and gradation of colors. And shrooms also... idk how to explain this but it kind of broke down the conceptual categories that I used to identify things? Like a rug was no longer a rug but a mass of color and texture and distance and other information that wasn't connected under a single label anymore.
Ketamine wasn't like that. Perception was still pretty normal but I had to concentrate to focus on any given thing that I was seeing or I'd lose track and stop looking at it, even though I my eyes were still aimed there. Everything felt very pulled back and zoomed out, kind of like that famous shot in jaws where they moved the camera forward while zooming back.
idk, trying to describe a mind altering drug with words is a fool's errand, we literally don't have the words, so that's the best I can do to explain it.
Yeah I'm starting to see the problem here in trying to compare it to other types of drugs.
Have you ever done laughing gas, also known as whippets? If I remember correctly it is the same type of drug as ketamine having a similar mechanism of action. Laughing gas would be my all time second favorite drug if it lasted hours instead of 30 seconds.
Nah, whippets never did anything for me. Idk if I was doing them wrong or what, but I never really got a strong effect from them. I have been on "laughing gas" for dental surgery but I think they just put me on high concentration oxygen and told me I was on nitrous and the placebo effect was enough to get me to relax. Oh wait no there was a time when I was on laughing gas. I God I forgot about that. it was for some dental work and I was totally on a different planet. All I remember is hitting on the dental assistant (which I'm sure was very seductive with my mouth jammed open by dental equipment and blood everywhere) and then being spacey and goofy for about an hour later.
Yeah that sounds like a placebo that first time. Trust me, when you're breathing laughing gas through a mask you'll know for absolutely certain within seconds.
When I got my wisdom teeth removed I had to be put under general anesthetic. Thing is I've always had an extreme phobia of needles, especially in veins. I literally cannot control myself if someone is going to put a needle in me and so I needed heavy sedation for them to put my IV in.
They used laughing gas and it was so much more intense and longer lived than whippets because instead of taking hits out of small canisters I had a mask continuously administering a mixture of laughing gas and oxygen.
I felt like time slowed down, as if the neurons in my brain were behaving the same, just at a much slower rate and without producing any anxiety whatsoever. It cut through my needle phobia like a hot knife through butter.
When the nurse was getting ready to put my IV the doctor tried distracting me so I wouldn't notice, but he didn't need to. I noticed he was trying to distract me, and I knew they were putting the IV in. I said with slurred speech "I know what you're trying to do you little shit" but I didn't feel even a twinge of panic and just accepted them putting the IV in like it was no big deal.
It was fucking awesome and I wish I could get a giant tank of the stuff. It's not illegal but the assholes who make it won't sell it to non-companies.
You know I used to have a severe needle phobia too, but when I got put on anti anxiety medication it pretty much got rid of it? Same with a couple of phobias. I used to be terrified of spiders and the dark and being on anti-anxiety meds for a few years got rid of it entirely.
I also got the sense of spatial distortion. I felt like I was sitting inside my head looking out, and my arms were impossibly far away and needed to be manually controlled if I wanted them to do anything.
I don't know if IV is different from snorted but I didn't experience is as being much like painkiller. You can still feel everything, you just don't care. it also distorted... umm... you know how, sometimes, you become aware of yourself thinking? That got really intense, like I was thinking about myself thinking about myself thinking about myself thinking about myself until it felt like I was stuck in this totally stable, motionless, endless place. I could still carry on reasonably coherent conversations, like I was still awake, just not aware if that makes sense? idk it's profoundly fucking weird.
I experienced no desire to do more right away. It was strange, and not unpleasant, but there was no euphoria or rush or ecstatic feeling. Once most of the effect wore off it... made me feel like I had the balance issues of being drunk, while my mind was clear and alert. Like, I could carry on a conversation without any trouble, but I needed to look where I was going to walk or sit down and pay attention to my balance and my feet. That lasted for several hours, though I usually went to sleep as soon as I got home so I don't know how long it took to wear off.
I would do it again if I could do it safely. It was just such an experience, like seeing the ocean or looking off the edge of a very tall building, or diving in to the water. There wasn't anything euphoric or ecstatic about it, but it was such a wildly different experience from normal perception that it was interesting in and of itself. It paired really well with music. And it was good for introspection, I felt like I had a vast span of time to think about myself and reflect on memories and events in my life.
The way you put it makes it sound psychedelic which tracks with most other descriptions I've read about it.
Almost like the best introspective parts of LSD without the potential for panic and anxiety due to Ketamine's dissociative nature.
It was very different from shrooms. I found shrooms really made colors stand out and become, like, not more vivid, but I was extremely aware of the different between each hue and shade and gradation of colors. And shrooms also... idk how to explain this but it kind of broke down the conceptual categories that I used to identify things? Like a rug was no longer a rug but a mass of color and texture and distance and other information that wasn't connected under a single label anymore.
Ketamine wasn't like that. Perception was still pretty normal but I had to concentrate to focus on any given thing that I was seeing or I'd lose track and stop looking at it, even though I my eyes were still aimed there. Everything felt very pulled back and zoomed out, kind of like that famous shot in jaws where they moved the camera forward while zooming back.
idk, trying to describe a mind altering drug with words is a fool's errand, we literally don't have the words, so that's the best I can do to explain it.
Yeah I'm starting to see the problem here in trying to compare it to other types of drugs.
Have you ever done laughing gas, also known as whippets? If I remember correctly it is the same type of drug as ketamine having a similar mechanism of action. Laughing gas would be my all time second favorite drug if it lasted hours instead of 30 seconds.
Nah, whippets never did anything for me. Idk if I was doing them wrong or what, but I never really got a strong effect from them. I have been on "laughing gas" for dental surgery but I think they just put me on high concentration oxygen and told me I was on nitrous and the placebo effect was enough to get me to relax. Oh wait no there was a time when I was on laughing gas. I God I forgot about that. it was for some dental work and I was totally on a different planet. All I remember is hitting on the dental assistant (which I'm sure was very seductive with my mouth jammed open by dental equipment and blood everywhere) and then being spacey and goofy for about an hour later.
Yeah that sounds like a placebo that first time. Trust me, when you're breathing laughing gas through a mask you'll know for absolutely certain within seconds.
When I got my wisdom teeth removed I had to be put under general anesthetic. Thing is I've always had an extreme phobia of needles, especially in veins. I literally cannot control myself if someone is going to put a needle in me and so I needed heavy sedation for them to put my IV in.
They used laughing gas and it was so much more intense and longer lived than whippets because instead of taking hits out of small canisters I had a mask continuously administering a mixture of laughing gas and oxygen.
I felt like time slowed down, as if the neurons in my brain were behaving the same, just at a much slower rate and without producing any anxiety whatsoever. It cut through my needle phobia like a hot knife through butter.
When the nurse was getting ready to put my IV the doctor tried distracting me so I wouldn't notice, but he didn't need to. I noticed he was trying to distract me, and I knew they were putting the IV in. I said with slurred speech "I know what you're trying to do you little shit" but I didn't feel even a twinge of panic and just accepted them putting the IV in like it was no big deal.
It was fucking awesome and I wish I could get a giant tank of the stuff. It's not illegal but the assholes who make it won't sell it to non-companies.
You know I used to have a severe needle phobia too, but when I got put on anti anxiety medication it pretty much got rid of it? Same with a couple of phobias. I used to be terrified of spiders and the dark and being on anti-anxiety meds for a few years got rid of it entirely.
Drugs are wild.
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I also got the sense of spatial distortion. I felt like I was sitting inside my head looking out, and my arms were impossibly far away and needed to be manually controlled if I wanted them to do anything.