Yes, I know from a rhetorical perspective they're a bunch of jerks who do nothing but complain, but is there an actual takedown of their ideological notions? Because just saying they suck without further explanation makes it hard to dismiss them when they pop up. I don't agree with them, I just want to know why I shouldn't. Something about statues and logic and being chained in a courtyard with wind and all that. I'm not sure where to put this, sorry.

  • UncleJoe [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Don't people who follow the Italian leftcoms generally criticize Gramsci's thought for basically toeing the line between materialism and just straight up idealism? I don't think Bordiga and Gramsci are compatible at all really

    Not to mention Bordigists generally hate Gramsci's guts because they view him as a Moscow puppet put in place through factional maneuvering so that the Italian Communist Party would be sympathetic to the USSR

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yes. And yes Gramsci's later thought heavily incorporates Italian idealism, but that was precisely what made it stand out from the competing Marxist dogmas that had become entrenched in the early 20th centuries. It doesn't mean his contributions aren't worth considering.

      But Bordiga's philosophy was similarly flawed, at least in the way he attempted to put it into practice. His vision for the PCI was hyper-sectarian and rendered it completely isolated from the actual labor movement.