https://twitter.com/mattduss/status/1529119587157037057

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  • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It is kind of interesting to me how even the smarter arch reactionaries agree it's not a good idea to provoke Putin out of their own self interest, but the liberals are still frothing at the mouth

    • footfaults [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      Because they're still convinced russiagate was real and was why they lost in 2016. Not that they ran a shitty candidate and a shitty campaign

      they have gone full "destroy Russia because they made us look bad"

        • footfaults [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Hillary just needs to find the manager for all the voters and complain. I'm sure that will sort this all out

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        3 years ago

        As much as it is a non materialist explanation, I honestly think this is a massive contributing factor to the current lib Russia hysteria. They were so traumatized by Trump, and he and his hogs are too dumb to have done it themselves, because the libs are just so super smart, so it HAS to be putin.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Could it be because they view Putin as outside their West Wing civility fantasy and can't conceptualize the idea of diplomacy with him?

    • KiaKaha [he/him]M
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      3 years ago

      Kissinger’s thing is power balancing. There’s a decent faction of neocons who want to do the Sino-Soviet split again, but this time with Russia against China. Mearsheimer is one.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        And it would be either a winning or a more successful strategy at least, if they hadnt acted in ways that pushed the two together more solidly.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          They'd probably need a time machine to go back to 1990 and prevent the wholesale looting of Russia though.

    • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      libs are only for it right now cos the president is a dem, if Trump were still around and this was going on they would be full throat anti-war and constantly talking about how Trump is a nazi and arming nazis in ukraine.

      • tails__miles_prower [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Are we sure about that? They congratulated him for bombing Syria and then called him a traitor for not killing anyone with it.

    • DJMSilver [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The arch reactionaries of that time period are too liberal for mainstream now. The politics that constitute Sanders is even further right than the large majority of republicans in that time period.