I work in IT and I'm looking into teaching myself more about cloud devops stuff and then taking a test to get a certificate. So I basically have to pick if I want to focus on AWS, Microsoft Azure, or Google Cloud. I really don't want to support Amazon, but the other two aren't that great either. Is Google still less evil than Microsoft?

  • jwsmrz [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Sort of a meaningless question, nothing you do will make a difference in terms of these companies being Good or Bad. From what I've seen in my local market the demand for AWS knowledge is highest

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Go with what pays the best. The whole machine runs on blood there's no way to stay clean. Remember to steal office supplies.

    • Parent [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah just do AWS because it's the most common and has the most market share so the most jobs will want it.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Trick question they're all deeply enmeshed in the MIC and the intelligence alphabet soup. Google's search engine started out as a program intended to help US intelligence agencies search through their massive databases of intel files.

  • hypercube [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    get into AWS because it's the most used and therefore knowledge of it will allow you to do the most damage :missingram:

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The difference in evilness is hard enough to quantify that I wouldn't try. Also the various * as a service offerings are very similar between the big 3 cloud providers.

    IMO AWS has the least intuitive interface because it's been around the longest (keeping around garbage legacy UIs) and uses ridiculous names for things. On the other hand, it's the most popular so if you say "AWS" on your resume it looks pretty good.

    I'd say to not sweat the evilness of this one, your participation will be in buying some server time for your own education and you can probably make good use of the free tier (costing them money). Get your money and spend it on building socialism.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      2 years ago

      I swear AWS has internal competitions for most esoteric UI design

      Probably one that grew out of a competition for most esoteric API design tbh

      • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Right? It's like they're in love with poorly-labeled tables and putting important settings three menus deep.

        Also I demand to know who came up with the name, "elastic beanstalk".

        • crime [she/her, any]
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          2 years ago

          lol yeah, and the RDS monitoring features have the most absurd designs you could possibly choose for the purpose

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    They are all pure evil. They all collaborate with the Pentagon. They all are extremely monopolistic companies. What we're talking about here is power. At this stage, Microsoft is probably the least powerful.

    Windows doesn't hold the monopoly power it once did. Microsoft's domination of the PC market has been made redundant by the proliferation of smartphones, smart TVs, and the ability to install Linux on any Windows machine without much hassle. Meanwhile Google dominates the smartphone market, the browser market, the search market, and the advertising market, and Amazon is the epitome of our present mode of production, dominating in retail, computational rentseeking, and logistics.

  • Windows97 [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    On the consumer end and throwing all the other problems with human rights and labor abuses out the window, I believe Google is less terrible because while it harvests unholy amounts of data from its users, it provides great services for free in return. They use open source software, not out of belief in free software, but to capitalize on free labor as well as fast initial adoption, but personally I still think this is better than amazon or microsoft who are still shitty, make good services, but don't contribute to open source significantly.

    But also I've heard nothing but terrible things about google cloud and their customer support so I can't really recommend it.

    On the business end Amazon customer support is unparalleled, coming from personal experience as well as the experiences of co-workers and more when the topic comes up. They also are probably the worst in terms of morality unfortuately.

    I have no experience with Azure but I haven't heard anything bad about it so I guess that's good?

    If you aren't literally constrained to those three options, oracle is also a big name cloud provider and they are less cartoon evil and more corporate drone evil. Their cloud services are a mixed bag but the pricing is pretty good and their free tier is really good. But again I haven't heard great things from them either.

    I guess if you had to pick the best for business style use azure is probably good as long as you look into it and make sure there isn't anything deal-breaking about it's service, but at this point if you have to use amazon it's not like the lack of your money really mattered to them anyways.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    2 years ago

    AWS is the most popular by a long shot. Get that, get hired by a big company, do as much cyber crime as you can get away with and bug out the back door when you hear the sirens.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    2 years ago

    They're all horrifically evil so go with AWS - it's substantially nicer and substantially more widely used which makes it better for job prospects

  • baguettePants [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    WhAtAboUT Oracle OCI? It should be the cheapest at least? Redhat Openshift perhaps?

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      2 years ago

      God I'm a fucking devops lead and either I've somehow never heard that Oracle has a cloud housing offering, or I've violently repressed every memory I've ever had of it

      Time to repress it again just in case

  • buh [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I don't know any of those but recently I worked on a project using Visual Studio and C# and it was so good I almost want to soft-reboot my career to use the MS stack

  • pppp1000 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I rarely find companies using google cloud platform. Not as much as AWS or Azure.