Honestly, I think Biden winning is (slightly) worse for all the overseas wars and the genocide in Palestine. Trump's sycophants are terrible at running the war machine, they're fragmented and incompetent. They're more concerned with their individual career trajectories than the projects of the state. Biden's admin also has a fair bit of that, but people like Blinken and Nuland are closer to ideological true believers, who have stopped at nothing and continue to scale up these conflicts, everything else be damned. He's also completely ambivalent to the red states putting trans people and the parents of trans children on lists, forbidding trans healthcare, etc. I don't buy the argument that he's better than Trump on trans issues. Trump is no more likely to get blue states to destroy trans rights than Biden is to get red states to leave trans people alone. But that's just my cis opinion.
The flip side is that, as much as there's incompetent careerist ghouls in Trump's team, like Bolton or Giuliani, there also are some insane neocon/fascist true believers too, and those are the scariest people in politics.
Trump in 2020 would have been the harm reduction candidate through his incompetence and a democratic majority in the house/senate. We'd have the exact same COVID denialism, lack of economic relief, wars, inaction toward LGBT and reproductive rights, funding of the police and military, and border policy. The only difference would be that liberals would have to put their names next to opposing those things. Even if it's only rhetorical, the left would slip in like it did in 2018. Instead Blue MAGA gets to hoot and holler at the worst of their politicians and we are tied to them by the voters.
Democrats would be entering 2024 in a much stronger position with a much stronger candidate. 2022 and 2024 would both have more radicals, there'd be more opposition to Israel and less support for Ukraine, Ukraine would have probably ended much sooner with the same result and hundreds of thousands of lives saved. Liberals would still believe COVID exists and BLM could have probably maintained momentum as the economy continued to get worse. Locally the democrats were instead allowed to take comfort in voting blue no matter who working as a result of being the opposition party. They voted blue and checked out entirely leaving us with functionally right-wing politicians who rode the 2018 progressive wave.
Trump tries to be 100% Hitler but is so incompetent he only does like 70% of his Hitlering.
Biden gets to be 99% Hitler with no opposition while saying “Please vote for me not Trump I promise I’ll be 100% Hitler he’s only like 70% Hitler I can be 100% Hitler just vote for meeeee”
We wouldn’t have the same wars. The Russia-Ukraine war is a project of Biden and Nuland. Starting in 2014 when he was VP and picking back up in 2021 when he became president.
If Trump had been re-elected, it’s likely Russia wouldn’t have invaded and the conflict would stay frozen. Or even if they did, Trump wouldn’t support Ukraine so it would have been over pretty quick.
direct quote from the official text of project 2025 (emphasis mine):
Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.
You can call it vapid virtue signaling if you want, but the fact of the matter is that they are gunning for unitary executive power, and every single person who holds that unitary executive power will believe this and rule accordingly.
It is pretty concerning that that's the attitude they're showing, but I just don't see them actually going through with it. Desantis showed that running on transphobia and trying to attract everyone purely by culture war issues isn't a viable electoral strategy. Will they still rule accordingly when their base just seriously doesn't care? I don't mean to dismiss their transphobia, and obviously there are rabid chuds that absolutely will eat up the bathroom bills, the bans on trans education and healthcare, etc. But how much more of that are we going to see under Trump than what Biden is already turning a blind eye to?
I still don't blame you if you think voting for Biden is what's right because of your concerns about trans rights. I just think the difference is so marginal when Republicans are already allowed to go nuts.
Oh I'm not voting for Biden lmao, I have a bottle of champagne ready for when he bites it, I'm voting uncommitted in the primary and 3rd party in the general. I do wanna say though that I deeply appreciate you for your attitude here, I am getting burnt out by people detecting what they think is a hint of pro-Biden lesser-evilism and instantly launching into patronizing rhetoric that makes me feel like everyone sees me as a Hillary supporter. Justice cannot be attained for the people of the world without the downfall of America and the west and also there's room to have nuanced discussion on the pros and cons of another Trump term versus another Biden term with that foundational understanding in mind.
Honestly, I think Biden winning is (slightly) worse for all the overseas wars and the genocide in Palestine. Trump's sycophants are terrible at running the war machine, they're fragmented and incompetent. They're more concerned with their individual career trajectories than the projects of the state. Biden's admin also has a fair bit of that, but people like Blinken and Nuland are closer to ideological true believers, who have stopped at nothing and continue to scale up these conflicts, everything else be damned. He's also completely ambivalent to the red states putting trans people and the parents of trans children on lists, forbidding trans healthcare, etc. I don't buy the argument that he's better than Trump on trans issues. Trump is no more likely to get blue states to destroy trans rights than Biden is to get red states to leave trans people alone. But that's just my cis opinion.
The flip side is that, as much as there's incompetent careerist ghouls in Trump's team, like Bolton or Giuliani, there also are some insane neocon/fascist true believers too, and those are the scariest people in politics.
Trump in 2020 would have been the harm reduction candidate through his incompetence and a democratic majority in the house/senate. We'd have the exact same COVID denialism, lack of economic relief, wars, inaction toward LGBT and reproductive rights, funding of the police and military, and border policy. The only difference would be that liberals would have to put their names next to opposing those things. Even if it's only rhetorical, the left would slip in like it did in 2018. Instead Blue MAGA gets to hoot and holler at the worst of their politicians and we are tied to them by the voters.
Democrats would be entering 2024 in a much stronger position with a much stronger candidate. 2022 and 2024 would both have more radicals, there'd be more opposition to Israel and less support for Ukraine, Ukraine would have probably ended much sooner with the same result and hundreds of thousands of lives saved. Liberals would still believe COVID exists and BLM could have probably maintained momentum as the economy continued to get worse. Locally the democrats were instead allowed to take comfort in voting blue no matter who working as a result of being the opposition party. They voted blue and checked out entirely leaving us with functionally right-wing politicians who rode the 2018 progressive wave.
100% agree with everything you said
Trump tries to be 100% Hitler but is so incompetent he only does like 70% of his Hitlering.
Biden gets to be 99% Hitler with no opposition while saying “Please vote for me not Trump I promise I’ll be 100% Hitler he’s only like 70% Hitler I can be 100% Hitler just vote for meeeee”
We wouldn’t have the same wars. The Russia-Ukraine war is a project of Biden and Nuland. Starting in 2014 when he was VP and picking back up in 2021 when he became president.
If Trump had been re-elected, it’s likely Russia wouldn’t have invaded and the conflict would stay frozen. Or even if they did, Trump wouldn’t support Ukraine so it would have been over pretty quick.
direct quote from the official text of project 2025 (emphasis mine):
You can call it vapid virtue signaling if you want, but the fact of the matter is that they are gunning for unitary executive power, and every single person who holds that unitary executive power will believe this and rule accordingly.
It is pretty concerning that that's the attitude they're showing, but I just don't see them actually going through with it. Desantis showed that running on transphobia and trying to attract everyone purely by culture war issues isn't a viable electoral strategy. Will they still rule accordingly when their base just seriously doesn't care? I don't mean to dismiss their transphobia, and obviously there are rabid chuds that absolutely will eat up the bathroom bills, the bans on trans education and healthcare, etc. But how much more of that are we going to see under Trump than what Biden is already turning a blind eye to?
I still don't blame you if you think voting for Biden is what's right because of your concerns about trans rights. I just think the difference is so marginal when Republicans are already allowed to go nuts.
Oh I'm not voting for Biden lmao, I have a bottle of champagne ready for when he bites it, I'm voting uncommitted in the primary and 3rd party in the general. I do wanna say though that I deeply appreciate you for your attitude here, I am getting burnt out by people detecting what they think is a hint of pro-Biden lesser-evilism and instantly launching into patronizing rhetoric that makes me feel like everyone sees me as a Hillary supporter. Justice cannot be attained for the people of the world without the downfall of America and the west and also there's room to have nuanced discussion on the pros and cons of another Trump term versus another Biden term with that foundational understanding in mind.