• FirstToServe [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I find these kinds of threads genuinely unhinged. You got some calipers behind your back there, OP?

    • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      White supremacy is bad.

      I'm not talking about the white race or anything shitty like that. The US is a racially segregated white supremacist culture. What has been made here that wasn't stolen?

      • FirstToServe [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        It seems like you're playing a bit of a shell game with what you're talking about. "What was created in the US that wasn't stolen?" well obviously not a thing because the land itself and the labor used were both stolen. But that's true of the whole anglosphere. And you aren't divorced from its material consequences even if you're 'not a part of white supremacist culture' within the US. So if you're using that heuristic, how is "White Americans. What are they good for (uh!) absolutely nothing!" coherent as anything but race baiting? And if not, what heuristic are you using? Or how does that conclusion not follow?

        • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          Also I'm not even talking about race. I'm talking about the ideology of white supremacism and how it hasn't created shit.

          Yes it's a racist ideology I'm talking about, but I'm not fucking race baiting just because I'm acknowledging the country is racist.

          Obviously white people have created a ton of worthwhile things, but I'm having trouble listing many that were created in the US that wasn't just straight up stolen from minorities and immigrants

        • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Im not saying I'm better I'm just mad at the fucking US lmao. I'm white

          Stop freaking out and hate on America with me

          • FirstToServe [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            I'm nothing but bored at your bullshit trying to pull a motte and bailey with "white people" and "white supremacy"

            When fascists want to fear monger the left, they present societal change as being a reversal of society and not an evolution. They create a strawman where white people will be treated like they treat marginalized classes. You seem to agree with that strawman and embrace it unironically. Here, you adopt their rhetoric about "civilization" existing only despite [the ones with the bad skin and culture].

            So am I wrong in reading your explicit statements? And if not, would you consider yourself a giant fucking lib or a crypto fash?

  • HalidBeslic [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Pretty much all of modern electronic engineering was done in America. Both DC and AC were 'created' by white Americans, although Tesla was a first gen immigrant.

    • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I thought of this then came to the same conclusion that Tesla doesn't count because he was an immigrant and treated thusly, while edison can go fuck himself

  • dro_away [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Nothing that would not have arisen, likely in a significantly better form, absent the exploitation and violence. Which is really what matters.

  • RION [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Jonas Salk and the Polio Vaccine, if you consider him white. Edison, for all his dickishness, still brought us the modern lightbulb and a bunch of other stuff

  • learntocod [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Some comic has a bit about how only white men could have invented aircraft because only they could look at a bird and think “I should be able to do that”

  • justjoshint [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    age of consent at 18?

    pervasive anti-smoking campaigns?

    no idea if either of those are white people things but as far as im concerned theyre americas two greatest inventions. maybe jazz is up there